Gun muzzling during stagecoach "holdup"

[VictorFranko]

Did I go too far?

I get it. Yes, you went too far.

[vintagearms]

Omg. You certainly don't want to let this go. You asked a question and want everyone to agree with your decision.

[PolishMike]

Thank you IVC and Readysetgo for your comments, you seem to have gotten it. I'm not sure how asking a question of fellow shooters "ruins" anything for anyone or has anything to do with PC, and I'm the one being called "sensitive". Lol
By the way, bonus question. Can anyone tell me what Jon-Eric Hexum, Brandon Lee, Johann Ofner, Antonio Velasco, Tucker Thayer and Keaway Ivy have in common?

Gotten it? Asking here doesnt ruin anything. Calling the owner of the operation ruins it for everyone.

You came here asking if you were overreacting. 95% of the people said you are in the wrong and you stick with the 5%.

[CSACANNONEER]

I think you did great. You pointed out that their ride was not promoting or teaching proper firearm's safety in a non confrontational way.

You're right, we have a civil war reenactment near by annually, I didn't think of that. The only difference I can see is that the civil war actors willingly allow themselves to be muzzled during the event. We never made that deal on the stagecoach ride, does that matter?

I've been to a Civil War reenactment or two and I've NEVER seen one that authorized pointing any gun at any person (reenactor or member of the public). ALL guns are supposed to be pointed well above the heads of everyone present.

[calif 15-22]

I was just curious how my fellow gunners might view this incident. I have taught my 8 and 11 year old grandsons how to handle firearms and how to shoot them. They began with a pellet gun and now shoot my .22 rifle at the range. They know the gun safety rules very well and can recite and demonstrate them to me easily. I had recently taken them to an "old west town" nearby with a stagecoach ride. During the stage ride, a "holdup bandit" stopped the coach, all in fun of course. The bad guy had a realistic engraved western revolver. He pointed it skyward during much of the "holdup", but several times he pointed at us in the coach too. If I were not with my grandsons, I probably wouldn't have thought much about it, I get it, it's acting. But BOTH my grandsons commented to me as we left the scene that the bandit should not have pointed his gun at us, even in a fake holdup. (they knew it was play acting too of course, but they also were taught that you don't point a gun at anything that you aren't prepared to shoot). I was surprised and proud of their correct and learned comment and told them so, and agreed with them. I waited a few days and called the owner of the stagecoach ride. I was very understanding and told him I got it, it's acting, but related to him my grandson's comments. He agreed! The owner also said he had heard that from others and had talked with the 'bandit" about it, but the bad guy forgets sometimes and uses his pistol like a finger to point at people in the coach. (The gun was also made nonfunctioning ) I told the owner that this was not a big deal and I did not want to get anyone in trouble, we really liked the ride. I just thought he should know what my grandkids said. Did I go too far?

All Right Flame Suit on - Check
Here goes . . .

OP I think you did the absolutely did the RIGHT thing! The fact that the owner had "heard from others" says to me you were not alone in your thinking. Heck there was a 1,000 post thread here awhile back about an RO who wouldn't adjust the angle of a gun resting on a bench, and here we have a "Western Show" with a gun that was "made nonfunctioning" being pointed at children. Crazy Crap happens and who knows who made that gun non functioning and or kept tract of it.

We here on Calguns will call out some who sweeps a gun at us at the counter after it has been clear check twice by the clerk, yet some $12 an hour actors with some random gun pointing at a 8 yr old and 11 yr old and suddenly we are "Acting Crazy"?

OP you absolutely did the right thing. Hell I would had words with the so called bad guy and the owner.

I say well done sir!

[calif 15-22]

Thank you IVC and Readysetgo for your comments, you seem to have gotten it. I'm not sure how asking a question of fellow shooters "ruins" anything for anyone or has anything to do with PC, and I'm the one being called "sensitive". Lol
By the way, bonus question. Can anyone tell me what Jon-Eric Hexum, Brandon Lee, Johann Ofner, Antonio Velasco, Tucker Thayer and Keaway Ivy have in common?

I can . . . they were all killed by "unfunctional" guns!

[MFortie]

Personally, I think you took it too far by contacting the stage operator.

That said, I actually do Old West re-enacting and skits with real guns firing blank ammo. We tend to aim more towards the ground, off to one side, etc., but rule #2 (don't point at what you don't intend to destroy) is so engrained in my brain I get a little uncomfortable with pointing at someone (or having a gun pointed at me.) I think it's a good thing though; I never want to get lax regarding gun safety...

Probably should have used the experience as a 'schooling' moment with your grandkids as mentioned about.

Oh, and mistakes are made. Lookup the accidental negligent shooting that occurred in Tombstone, Oct. 2015. That was by a seasoned reenactor who failed to have his weapon checked.

[Lonestargrizzly]

I can . . . they were all killed by "unfunctional" guns!

Haven't you ever seen the movie "Crash"?

[titan2]

You need to call the grammar Nazi.

Here you go....

[calif 15-22]

Haven't you ever seen the movie "Crash"?

Wait you talking about the "red box" ammo and the blanks??
Not sure that is the same here.

[Lonestargrizzly]

Wait you talking about the "red box" ammo and the blanks??
Not sure that is the same here.

Of course it is.

[oakdalecurtis]

I can . . . they were all killed by "unfunctional" guns!

We have a bonus question winner!
The last words that each of the actors on the list heard while they were still alive were "Don't be so sensitive and PC, it's only a prop gun in a make believe scene, you're going to ruin it for everyone."

[71MUSTY]

We have a bonus question winner!
The last words that each of the actors on the list heard while they were still alive were "Don't be so sensitive and PC, it's only a prop gun in a make believe scene, you're going to ruin it for everyone."

Now your just making **** up.

[RiflePistolShotgun]

.....In a setting like that it is fine. No need to write letters or call owners. Do you go to haunted houses and complain about the blood because you don't know if it is real? It really seems like you are going out of your way to make this a big deal and ruin it for everyone else.

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[CouchOperator]

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