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  • kramynot
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 258

    Bubba modifies bullet button to comply with new laws

    Well it was raining today and the shoot at the range was cancelled, so I headed out to the garage/workshop to see what I could do about my current bullet buttons. I greatly appreciate the vendors who have come out with new compliance alternatives, but I wanted to see what I could with what I had.. and on the cheap.

    Anyway, came up with a way, I think, to adapt my current bullet buttons to meet the current definition of fixed mag. As you can see in the attachment, I put the normal mag release spring under the bullet button, which was inserted the way it normally is. Then the nut was screwed in by pushing the bullet button down on the spring. I drilled and tapped (all threads were 10-32) the bullet button. I then took some 3/16 rod I had laying around and cut it with a dremel, stuck it in a vise and bent it, and then threaded each end. On the top end that rests against the upper receiver, I cut a small piece of delrin and drilled and tapped that as well. Then I assembled and... it didn't work. My design (if you can call it that) was for the rod to screw down into the bullet button and the side of it would rest against the bullet button nut. However, I had a gap and needed some type of spacer. So, looking around the bench where I do my reloading I realized I had a million spacers in every corner of the garage... spent primers. So I found an appropriate one, a spent small rifle primer, dropped it in on top of the nut, and then screwed in the rod and success.

    I can't unscrew the delrin pad unless I lift the upper. Because of that delrin pad, I can't unscrew the rod unless I lift the upper. And I can't unscrew the bullet button nut without first unscrewing the rod. So, I think this works from a compliance perspective.

    Still have to shape the delrin pad, but I'll do that if it rains tomorrow.

    Total cost - $0.00 since I had everything in the garage already. Also, it is environmentally friendly since I'll be recycling a bullet button and a spent primer.
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  • #2
    SmallShark
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1395

    Smart idea but why?

    What is the point of having an ar which can only be reloaded after opening the action?

    Do you really want to take it out to the range and shoot it?

    Will it be more fun than shooting a mini-14 or Remington 700 223?

    If you don't want to register it, sell it to other states.

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    • #3
      ScottsBad
      Progressives Suck!
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • May 2009
      • 5610

      Yeah, I'm still baffled why anyone would want to have a rifle that requires the action to be opened to reload.

      Ask yourself, is it harder to release the bolt, push the pin out, open the action, press the mag button, load a magazine, close the action, press the pin back in (hard to do on a ten round mag), and finally cycle the action before you can shoot?

      -OR-

      Press the mag release button and reload a new magazine, but have a funky grip?

      Just doesn't make sense.

      And of course you can always register it if purchased last year.
      sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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      • #4
        ElvenSoul
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2008
        • 17431

        Originally posted by ScottsBad
        Yeah, I'm still baffled why anyone would want to have a rifle that requires the action to be opened to reload.

        Ask yourself, is it harder to release the bolt, push the pin out, open the action, press the mag button, load a magazine, close the action, press the pin back in (hard to do on a ten round mag), and finally cycle the action before you can shoot?

        -OR-

        Press the mag release button and reload a new magazine, but have a funky grip?

        Just doesn't make sense.

        And of course you can always register it if purchased last year.
        Stripper clips on a break open

        Open her up

        Insert striper clip

        Push rounds down

        Close

        Now shoot
        sigpic

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        • #5
          kramynot
          Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 258

          Originally posted by SmallShark

          Will it be more fun than shooting a mini-14 or Remington 700 223?
          Originally posted by ScottsBad

          Press the mag release button and reload a new magazine, but have a funky grip?
          Guys, this is the handgun forum. I've yet to see a mini-14 or Remington 700 pistol although I'm sure someone has made one. Also, under current laws, you can't go featureless with an AR pistol because the mag loads outside of the pistol grip.

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          • #6
            Saym14
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2009
            • 7892

            pretty ingenious. oh yeah and wrong forum too

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            • #7
              westcoaster
              Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 435

              I wish I was 1/10 as handy in creating new gadgets as the OP. pretty cool.
              The nicest, most polite people I have ever met have been at gun shows, shooting ranges and church.
              NRA Life Endowment Member. Stand for something.

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              • #8
                ifilef
                Banned
                • Apr 2008
                • 5665

                Originally posted by ScottsBad
                Yeah, I'm still baffled why anyone would want to have a rifle that requires the action to be opened to reload.

                Ask yourself, is it harder to release the bolt, push the pin out, open the action, press the mag button, load a magazine, close the action, press the pin back in (hard to do on a ten round mag), and finally cycle the action before you can shoot?

                -OR-

                Press the mag release button and reload a new magazine, but have a funky grip?

                Just doesn't make sense.

                And of course you can always register it if purchased last year.
                There's a device that I just became aware of where one lifts the upper using 'Quick Pins' and magazine automatically drops out; close the action and insert a mag the normal way. It's quite ingenious.

                It's worth looking into, though it's not cheap with two modifications to the firearm. But the Safe Mag alone is but $69.00. If you built your own AR you should not have any significant challenge re installation. There are other videos from Cross Armory depicting installation of the devices, e.g, the Mag Safe and the Quick Pins. May not be any more challenging than installing the Patriot. I'd probably need to use gunsmith for either but that is just me!

                I can't comment on legality under the new laws except it appears that it might be compliant.





                Last edited by ifilef; 02-20-2017, 4:38 PM.

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                • #9
                  Jimi Jah
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 18912

                  Muzzle brake, fixed stock and Hammerhead = no more bullet button. I feel like a free man again.

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                  • #10
                    tonyxcom
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 6397

                    Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                    Muzzle brake, fixed stock and Hammerhead = no more bullet button. I feel like a free man again.
                    If you actually feel "free" with a featureless AR, then I don't know what to say.

                    There is nothing that remotely resembles 'free' for the AR15 in California.

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                    • #11
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 18912

                      I like the Hammerhead feel. It's natural to me now. The pistol grip now feels weird to me. It's more like a wood rifle stock feel with the Hammerhead. The fins don't work at all for me.

                      Fixed stocks and brakes are another bonus, I love them and would not go back. Excremento can stuff themselves. They will not outlaw featureless because they know the entire ban will collapse if they try that.

                      My rifles will not be registered and they will not know what happened to those pre 2014 lowers either. Excremento is on a need to know basis and they don't need to know.

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                      • #12
                        MarikinaMan
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 4864

                        freakin awesome!

                        did you make it removable via threads? that would make it even better IMHO.

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                        • #13
                          rauldelga
                          Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 155

                          Originally posted by ifilef
                          There's a device that I just became aware of where one lifts the upper using 'Quick Pins' and magazine automatically drops out; close the action and insert a mag the normal way. It's quite ingenious.

                          It's worth looking into, though it's not cheap with two modifications to the firearm. But the Safe Mag alone is but $69.00. If you built your own AR you should not have any significant challenge re installation. There are other videos from Cross Armory depicting installation of the devices, e.g, the Mag Safe and the Quick Pins. May not be any more challenging than installing the Patriot. I'd probably need to use gunsmith for either but that is just me!

                          I can't comment on legality under the new laws except it appears that it might be compliant.





                          Looks like a nice design. I don't own an AR15 but are there issues if there is a FTF,FTE? This new law confuses me in that it's almost impossible to clear a gun from some jam if you need to break it open. Doesn't the bolt go into the stock and won't let it open unless its in the closed state?

                          I guess thats a problem with ALL non-removable magazines on AR15s. I can imagine people double feeding the bajeezes trying to clear the rifle with a stuck magazine.

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                          • #14
                            mzhunter
                            Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 449

                            thats awesome great job and to all the ones who say why, because I'm going to b hunting with my ar15 and don't want to b hassled by the fish and game wardens and i should b able to kill with 10 shots without haven't to reload

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