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I ain't trying to drop a dime, but, legality questions regarding a youtube video...

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  • #16
    stevemac
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    • Oct 2016
    • 504

    Pretty bada**! I need a combat room in my life.

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    • #17
      xxINKxx
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      • Jun 2008
      • 4289

      I bought one from them a couple months ago. Shipped it right to my address in socal. It's sweet.

      To make Ca legal, (not sure after 12/31/16) But all you needed to do was create a bullet button by shaving down the plastic mag release so you can't drop mags (like an AR with pistol grip) It's easily reversible to normal if ever needed by buying a new mag release for a couple bucks) and pin the stock in its most open setting since when it's closed its under the 30" OAL.

      Or I guess u could do a grip wrap and make sure the stock is pinned open as well, and no vertical grip for featurless.

      It's is super fun. Best little 9mm carbine I've tried.

      I just keep mine at our house in AZ to avoid dealing with Ca BS and use a 50 round drum.
      Last edited by xxINKxx; 02-02-2017, 10:32 PM.
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      • #18
        norcal77
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        • Feb 2009
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        The fact that the legality of this item is being questioned irritates me to no end, it does nothing to change the function of the gun other than form factor, leaving this state sounds better and better each day
        Last edited by norcal77; 02-02-2017, 9:14 PM.
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        • #19
          Holden Caulfield
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          • Oct 2016
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          Originally posted by xxINKxx
          I bought one from them a couple months ago. Shipped it right to my address in socal. It's sweet.

          To make Ca legal, (not sure after 12/31/16) But you needed to shave down the plastic mag release button to make it a Bullet button, (completely reversible to normal if needed with a new mag release) and pin the stock in its most open setting since with it closed its under the 30" OAL.

          It's is super fun. Best little 9mm carbine I've tried.

          I just keep mine at our house in AZ to avoid dealing with Ca BS and use a 50 round drum
          Now that is a space gat.

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          • #20
            monk
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            • Jul 2011
            • 4454

            When I was in Redding a few years ago I shot a glock 18 in a Roni kit at a gun store.

            Stupid fun....wish I could have one.


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            • #21
              Cokebottle
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              • Oct 2009
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              Originally posted by xxINKxx
              To make Ca legal, (not sure after 12/31/16) But all you needed to do was create a bullet button by shaving down the plastic mag release so you can't drop mags (like an AR with pistol grip) It's easily reversible to normal if ever needed by buying a new mag release for a couple bucks) and pin the stock in its most open setting since when it's closed its under the 30" OAL.
              That is indeed a very good point.

              With the collapsible stock and pistol grip, it is a featured build and can not be assembled in CA.
              Sorry 4EverPouring3WM, it's over a month too late to put one together.
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              • #22
                xxINKxx
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                • Jun 2008
                • 4289

                What about featurless? Grip wrap and pin the stock open? Make sure u remove the vertical grip. It comes with some crappy foldable vertical grip that's removable. Barrel isn't threaded so no need to deal with flash hiders.
                Last edited by xxINKxx; 02-02-2017, 10:37 PM.
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                • #23
                  MontClaire
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                  • Feb 2009
                  • 4859

                  Mind your own business.

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                  • #24
                    dieselpower
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11471

                    the only thing he did wrong was shoot a target in the upper chest and called it center mass. hahaha

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                    • #25
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      Originally posted by 4EverPouring3WM
                      So this is good to go in CA as long as it stays in carbine configuration right? Looks like I'm off to the store for a new glock in the am
                      Nope, it's not good to go in CA unless you can figure out a way to make it a non AW. That means either a fixed magazine or featureless. Either way it would need to be +30" in it's shortest fireable configuration. Or, you could make one into a .22lr and be legal.
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                      • #26
                        audiophil2
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                        Originally posted by Cokebottle
                        If he has an SOT with his 07, he can manufacture NFA items for purposes of display and marketing.
                        Given that, and the BATFE opinion, I'm not sure that it would be legal for him to break it back down and sell the pistol.
                        What NFA laws apply to that video? I see none. Only CA AW law and he probably has an AW permit if he sells to LEO.
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                        • #27
                          sarbiker
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                          My understanding of the gun laws in CA; if it looks really cool and you want one but it makes DeLeon pee his pants when he looks at it - It's illegal to own.
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                          • #28
                            golfish
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 10071

                            I'm new to the glock world, that things is sweet
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                            • #29
                              SkylineGTR06
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                              • Jun 2012
                              • 238

                              Um I don't see anything wrong. I've seen videos of CA dealers shooting full auto. I'm guessing these guys have some sort of permit to be exempt from these dumb laws. Either way selling potentially illegal things to the public is kind of scary.

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                              • #30
                                SoldierLife7
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                                • Apr 2013
                                • 2420

                                "I ain't trying to drop a dime..."

                                *drops dime



                                I feel like there is a better way to ask this sort of question without pointing out the perp... Just my opinion, which I'm sure most of you think isn't worth much.

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