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  • steelrain82
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3683

    Fixed mag creating undue burden?

    I was doing something, I don't quite remember what it was, but the thought came to my mind. How does this not create an undue burden and infringement on our rights? I know the courts have ruled that a trigger lock is not mandatory because it would affect my ability to defend myself. How does a fixed magazine not do the same?

    I would like to think that if a shooting ever happened in my home, that after the first round or two the criminal(s) would be dead or fleeing. However, if reality hits and they don't flee, aren't dead, or there are multiple individuals, am I not now placed in a situation which creates an undue burden on my ability defend (or continue to defend) myself, or my family?
  • #2
    R Dale
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2015
    • 1736

    Best thing is to have multiple firearms.

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    • #3
      cyborg
      Banned
      • Dec 2016
      • 333

      They doan care.

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      • #4
        anonymous308
        • Feb 2015
        • 572

        Originally posted by cyborg
        They doan care.
        This unfortunately. They don't seem to care.

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        • #5
          steelrain82
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 3683

          I get that part. But I never hear of this as an argument. I know, bigger fish to fry.

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          • #6
            Stanze
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 3301

            Sorry to say that due to CA tyranny, my fixed mag guns are mainly cool looking range toys until CA becomes free; or me or my guns move to a free state.

            That said, I keep a few featureless rifles around for dropping mags.

            Sorry if that doesn't answer your question OP, however the previous posts pretty much cover it.
            Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

            "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


            "Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack." -Stanze

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44676

              No litigation content - moved.
              ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

              Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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              • #8
                omega
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2005
                • 3106

                carry multiple firearms like the pirates did

                Originally posted by R Dale
                Best thing is to have multiple firearms.
                back when they didnt have repeating firearms, the pirates would carry multiple pistols since they wouldnt have time to reload in a fight.





                Last edited by omega; 01-29-2017, 8:19 AM.

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                • #9
                  SheepDog78
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 630

                  OP, you have the process all wrong. You have to die in a home invasion first because you couldn't reload, THEN your family gets to file the lawsuit on your behalf, but they'll probably lose since all that happened was a right wing extremist gun nut was stopped before he could use his evil gun to unjustly kill a poor criminal just trying to turn his life around.

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                  "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." -Edmund Burke

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                  • #10
                    AregularGuy
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2792

                    Originally posted by steelrain82
                    I was doing something, I don't quite remember what it was, but the thought came to my mind. How does this not create an undue burden and infringement on our rights? I know the courts have ruled that a trigger lock is not mandatory because it would affect my ability to defend myself. How does a fixed magazine not do the same?

                    I would like to think that if a shooting ever happened in my home, that after the first round or two the criminal(s) would be dead or fleeing. However, if reality hits and they don't flee, aren't dead, or there are multiple individuals, am I not now placed in a situation which creates an undue burden on my ability defend (or continue to defend) myself, or my family?
                    They don't care about this. The restrictions are not in place to make the guns safer to use. They don't want us to have guns at all. The compliance devices and means are our way to stay legal. But have nothing to do with safety.
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                    "You want my sister but now scam my Glocks too?
                    How about my sister? what can she do now? Still virgin and need Glcok."

                    ---ARegularGuy

                    NRA Patron Member

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                    • #11
                      ojisan
                      Agent 86
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 11773

                      Originally posted by R Dale
                      Best thing is to have multiple firearms.
                      Whoever thought that the AR15 would become a prime candidate for the "New York Reload"?

                      Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                      I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                      • #12
                        Holden Caulfield
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 50

                        Why would you want to kill a criminal? They're special snowflakes born into a life of crime by an oppressive regime. You're the bad guy for owning a gun.

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                        • #13
                          PogoJack
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 2167

                          Being pragmatic here, just thinking about protecting my family and not my rights at the moment...featureless and a normal mag release would be the best way to go in my situation. I've got an ARES SCR as my featureless HD weapon. My ARs are maglocked and in the safe.

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                          "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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