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  • vgman94
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    • Nov 2016
    • 136

    General question about gun companies

    I have a theory I want proven or disproven by the knowledgable here: Do some companies cater more towards certain sectors of the shooting community than others? I mean like, some cater to hunters, others the self-defense crowd, others for competitive shooting. If I am correct and some cater more to some types than others, my real question is which companies would you guys consider to be a certain "type" of gun company?

    Like, what would one categorize CZ-USA or Springfield? Both make rifles and pistols, and CZ also makings several shotguns and bolt actions for hunting. So, that would make them more of an all-around company, right? Does my theory of some companies having a certain focus hold any water? Answers on this random thought would be very well appreciated.
  • #2
    CouchOperator
    Veteran Member
    • May 2016
    • 4353

    KAC, LMT, FN typically cater to the military and contracts, and their guns and parts trickle into the civilian market but not their main focus. Good guns typically shot alot by their customers.

    Colt caters to whoever will still buy their crap after they burned the civilian market. The LE6920 is a decent entry rifle.

    LWRC caters to people that dont want to admit DI guns work. Those owners should just buy an AK.

    Salient/Agency/Falkor cater to the instagram queens. Only ever taken out of the safe to be oiled or photographed.

    BCM caters to whoever is an up and coming instructor so they can pimp their guns in the next Panteo dvd. Good guns though.
    Daniel Defense attracts a similar customer base, and are more vocal about their ownership of a DD. Good guns, typically their owners do shoot them alot. Chevy vs Ford between BCM and DD.

    Noveske caters to a small fanbase who chase the iron cross. Very trendy folk. Generally people who pursue accuracy as the most important feature in their rifles.
    EraThr3 is similar but more expensive, and heavier on the lifestyle/trendy factor.

    DSA: caters decent rifles for collectors and people too cheap to buy AR-10s, yet with enough common sense to not buy a PTR. Also heard talking about the Rhodesian bush wars, and typically seen at the range with short shorts and a baby poop yellow FAL.


    LaRue: Caters to the more serious precision shooters, generally with a bigger budget than Noveske fans. Typically profess Mark LaRue as a god and hang on to his every word, which is kind of strange. Also good guns

    Hk: Caters to people who tell you how great the MP5 is even though they own a USP and have never touched a real HK subgun. Typically only owns 2 mags because they have no more budget left for $70 pistol mags. A strange bunch and by far the most brandloyal. Typically owns a PTR91 and pretends its a G3. Known to load rounds backwards in mags based off the incompetent companys press release material as a long running joke. Constantly reminds you that Glock didnt invent the first polymer gun, even though glock made the first good polymer gun.

    Warsport: Attracts fools who hate their money. Typically "Chris Costa" is near the top in their browser history. Typically never seen a range in its life.

    Springfield Armory M1A: Typically purchased by an individual who professes it as "The riflemans rifle" as if shooting a good group with outdated technology validates the platform as relevant in todays world. Typically ends up spending alot of money to unitize and fix the rifle only to come on the internet to tell everyone why their AR that produces the same groups from the factory sucks. An odd group, but a small percentage do put in the work to make the best of the rifle.

    DDI & Century Arms (AK47): Often only owns a hammer and the freezer contains only vodka. Typically a macguyver type person who can fix anything with a hammer and duct tape. Typically owned by either a practical shooter who understands the limitations of the cartridge, or someone who has unrealistic expectations and blames everything on the sights or wind.
    Subcategory: Arsenal: See above, but minus the hammer and other hand tools. Wouldnt dare risk scuffing the finish.

    IWI: Caters to persons too elite and exclusive for the garbage spewed out by America's foolish and sloppy special operations community, yet not comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber due to poor trigger discipline. Gets majority of their training from dubious Israeli expatriates on youtube. Generally seen with a non-sbr Tavor which is only an inch or so shorter than a standard configuration AR.

    PSA/Apoc/Red-X/EP-Armory etc: The budget conscious homebuilder who doesnt generally attend classes or shoot their rifles much. PSA's upper tiered guns are decent but generally all within that price bracket have lower grade and batch tested components. The owners are typically fine wjth this, and buy build kits just to say they built another rifle for the sake of building another rifle; nothing more. Typically owns 6 or more but pops in on discussions involving $1,500+ rifles to say why theirs is just as good. Hard pass on all others in its price bracket.

    CZ attracts alot of target shooters. In the US not many people buy them for work related uses and moreso use them for target shooting or competiton.

    Glock: Typically purchased by people who put function first. Widely customizeable but most people i know just stipple them and change the sights. A practical shooters gun unless its a .40. If seen in .40, be a good samaritan take them under your wing and explain why .40 sucks. Caters to alot of LEO by low low prices and/or blue label.

    Hipoint: Caters to the occasional customer that genuinely cant afford anything else for one reason or another, but mostly to ignorant customers who think its the same thing as a glock/m&p/xd/etc.


    Masterpiece Arms: Caters Mac 10's for those with Boyz n da Hood and Menace II Society in their recently watched list on Netflix.

    Strike Industries/ Fab Defense/ Tapco: Typically owners who lack common sense or knowledge when it comes to what makes a quality rifle. Typically suckered by gimmicky marketing without much trouble.

    80℅ Lowers (All): Typically buy alot of tin foil and has their location services disabled on their Nokia cellphone. Typically attributes ownership of a mill as machinist qualifications, then posts a thread asking why their rifle isnt working correctly.


    Froglube caters to the individual who used to eat crayons, but now can eat their gun lube. Typically pleasant breath, and probably has more edible lubes and items at home.

    Zombie items cater to the individual who is a closet psychopath, who generally believes that the end is nigh. Has an affinity for everything the color of Nickelodean Slime, and probably owns a pistol grip mossberg 500. Typically can be found underground and hasn’t seen the sun in 6 months.


    Sig Sauer caters to the customer that has a Navy Seals poster in his cubicle, though is unlikely to pass the physical. Has a double action mode on their pistols but unlikely that the gun has ever been shot from double action but one time, because in reality nobody likes an 11 pound trigger. Expect to hear them profess the p320’s greatness due to the new contract. The seats are quickly running out on the fanboy bandwagon. The P226 is a decent pistol, and will generally serve the owner well. They do hold up.

    Ruger caters to the individual that likes guns built to a price point. Typically found with unzeroed mini-14’s because the tula they purchased refuses to cycle. A very loyal fanbase brainwashed by Bill Ruger to hate all AR’s and proclaim on every forum the rifles superiority. If you wish to avoid these people, challenge them to a contest of accuracy against your bargain AR. They will avoid you at all cost.
    Sidenote: The 10-22 is respectable.


    Wilson Combat caters to people that either shoot their guns alot, or who are terrified to rack the slide for a misinformed fear of monetary value destruction. Often seen wiping the exterior down before they place it on a custom pillow in a sterile vaccuum sealed safe. Often known to pull a fast one on their baby mama and claim both kids on taxes without telling her so he has cash to burn.

    Les Baer caters to the individual who wants a practical but higher end 1911. Typically seen strugging to pull the slide back, however once loaded these guns belong to shooters who put more rounds through them than the average 1911 owner. Generally left dirty due to the bushing which seems to be fit in place with cement.

    Sphinx caters to the hipster where only the finest swiss products will complement his mocha latte non fat double-espresso thick-foam beverage.

    Barrett caters to those where big is not big enough. Typically has taken out a second mortgage in order to feed their rifle. When observing an individual filling their shopping cart at the grocery store with watermelons, cantaloupe, and other various food, know that you have spotted a Barrett owner in the wild. Crikey!

    Rock Island Armory is for the budget minded gun owner gullible enough to believe that their 1911s are made on original Colt machinery from the 1940s, yet they acknowledge that machinery in their 1998 Ford Focus is falling apart.


    RIP Ammo is for the individual who clearly has money to burn on ammo. Often believes bullets and terminal ballistics are the same between watermelons and people, though they are almost guaranteed to have never shot their $35 box of 20 rounds to function test in their firearm, but will claim the rounds superiority by plastering the internet with videos of improperly conducted ballistics tests featuring musclular men in shirts that seem to be purchased at baby gap. Likely to be a closet sociopath.

    Benelli caters to those white collar red necks among us who secretly desire a rifle but cannot detach themselves from the primal call of the 12 gauge. Will spend $2000 on a shotgun and then fuss over the unreliability of the $20 Walmart box of bird shot.

    Scar 17: "What's a few late payments on that 2017 Silverado anyways? Y0LO" Destined to take up the mantle of the M1A owners, where reminding every person on the planet of its brief service in special operations is paramount to being a good scar owner.

    Just my observations. There are obviously small exceptions in every category.
    Last edited by CouchOperator; 01-25-2017, 10:26 PM.

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    • #3
      zapatito92
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 768

      Originally posted by CouchOperator
      KAC, LMT, FN typically cater to the military and contracts, and their guns and parts trickle into the civilian market but not their main focus. Good guns typically shot alot by their customers.

      Colt caters to whoever will still buy their crap after they burned the civilian market. The LE6920 is a decent entry rifle.

      LWRC caters to people that dont want to admit DI guns work. Those owners should just buy an AK.

      Salient/Agency/Falkor cater to the instagram queens. Only ever taken out of the safe to be oiled or photographed.

      BCM caters to whoever is an up and coming instructor so they can pimp their guns in the next Panteo dvd. Good guns though.
      Daniel Defense attracts a similar customer base, and are more vocal about their ownership of a DD. Good guns, typically their owners do shoot them alot. Chevy vs Ford between BCM and DD.

      Noveske caters to a small fanbase who chase the iron cross. Very trendy folk. Generally people who pursue accuracy as the most important feature in their rifles.
      EraThr3 is similar but more expensive, and heavier on the lifestyle/trendy factor.


      LaRue: Caters to the more serious precision shooters, generally with a bigger budget than Noveske fans. Typically profess Mark LaRue as a god and hang on to his every word, which is kind of strange. Also good guns

      Hk: Caters to people who tell you how great the MP5 is even though they own a USP and have never touched a real HK subgun. Typically only owns 2 mags because they have no more budget left for $70 pistol mags. A strange bunch and by far the most brandloyal. Typically owns a PTR91 and pretends its a G3. Known to load rounds backwards in mags based off the incompetent companys press release material as a long running joke. Constantly reminds you that Glock didnt invent the first polymer gun, even though glock made the first good polymer gun.

      Warsport: Attracts fools who hate their money. Typically "Chris Costa" is near the top in their browser history. Typically never seen a range in its life.

      M1A: Typically purchased by an individual who professes it as "The riflemans rifle" as if shooting a good group with outdated technology validates the platform as relevant in todays world. Typically ends up spending alot of money to unitize and fix the rifle only to come on the internet to tell everyone why their AR that produces the same groups from the factory sucks. An odd group, but a small percentage do put in the work to make the best of the rifle.

      AK47: Often only owns a hammer and the freezer contains only vodka. Typically a macguyver type person who can fix anything with a hammer and duct tape. Typically owned by either a practical shooter who understands the limitations of the cartridge, or someone who has unrealistic expectations and blames everything on the sights or wind.

      PSA/Apoc/Red-X/EP-Armory etc: The budget conscious homebuilder who doesnt generally attend classes or shoot their rifles much. PSA's upper tiered guns are decent but generally all within that price bracket have lower grade and batch tested components. The owners are typically fine wjth this, and buy build kits just to say they built another rifle for the sake of building another rifle; nothing more. Typically owns 6 or more but pops in on discussions involving $1,500+ rifles to say why theirs is just as good. Hard pass on all others in its price bracket.

      CZ attracts alot of target shooters. In the US not many people buy them for work related uses and moreso use them for target shooting or competiton.

      Glock: Typically purchased by people who put function first. Widely customizeable but most people i know just stipple them and change the sights. A practical shooters gun unless its a .40. If seen in .40, be a good samaritan take them under your wing and explain why .40 sucks. Caters to alot of LEO by low low prices and/or blue label.

      Hipoint: Caters to the occasional customer that genuinely cant afford anything else for one reason or another, but mostly to ignorant customers who think its the same thing as a glock/m&p/xd/etc.

      Strike Industries/ Fab Defense/ Tapco: Typically owners who lack common sense or knowledge when it comes to what makes a quality rifle. Typically suckered by gimmicky marketing without much trouble.

      80℅ Lowers (All): Typically buy alot of tin foil and has their location services disabled on their Nokia cellphone. Typically attributes ownership of a mill as machinist qualifications, then posts a thread asking why their rifle isnt working correctly.



      Just my observations. There are obviously small exceptions in every category.


      holy crap ! you hit those right on the nose lol

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      • #4
        CouchOperator
        Veteran Member
        • May 2016
        • 4353

        Originally posted by zapatito92
        holy crap ! you hit those right on the nose lol
        Lol thanks. Still trying to think of others to summarize haha

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        • #5
          robledo
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 978

          Amazing.

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          • #6
            guest1
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 1038

            Zapatito, very well put and educational to say the least. Bravo.
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            • #7
              Jimmybikes
              Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 228

              Originally posted by CouchOperator
              KAC, LMT, FN typically cater to the military and contracts, and their guns and parts trickle into the civilian market but not their main focus. Good guns typically shot alot by their customers.

              Colt caters to whoever will still buy their crap after they burned the civilian market. The LE6920 is a decent entry rifle.

              LWRC caters to people that dont want to admit DI guns work. Those owners should just buy an AK.

              Salient/Agency/Falkor cater to the instagram queens. Only ever taken out of the safe to be oiled or photographed.

              BCM caters to whoever is an up and coming instructor so they can pimp their guns in the next Panteo dvd. Good guns though.
              Daniel Defense attracts a similar customer base, and are more vocal about their ownership of a DD. Good guns, typically their owners do shoot them alot. Chevy vs Ford between BCM and DD.

              Noveske caters to a small fanbase who chase the iron cross. Very trendy folk. Generally people who pursue accuracy as the most important feature in their rifles.
              EraThr3 is similar but more expensive, and heavier on the lifestyle/trendy factor.


              LaRue: Caters to the more serious precision shooters, generally with a bigger budget than Noveske fans. Typically profess Mark LaRue as a god and hang on to his every word, which is kind of strange. Also good guns

              Hk: Caters to people who tell you how great the MP5 is even though they own a USP and have never touched a real HK subgun. Typically only owns 2 mags because they have no more budget left for $70 pistol mags. A strange bunch and by far the most brandloyal. Typically owns a PTR91 and pretends its a G3. Known to load rounds backwards in mags based off the incompetent companys press release material as a long running joke. Constantly reminds you that Glock didnt invent the first polymer gun, even though glock made the first good polymer gun.

              Warsport: Attracts fools who hate their money. Typically "Chris Costa" is near the top in their browser history. Typically never seen a range in its life.

              Springfield Armory M1A: Typically purchased by an individual who professes it as "The riflemans rifle" as if shooting a good group with outdated technology validates the platform as relevant in todays world. Typically ends up spending alot of money to unitize and fix the rifle only to come on the internet to tell everyone why their AR that produces the same groups from the factory sucks. An odd group, but a small percentage do put in the work to make the best of the rifle.

              AK47: Often only owns a hammer and the freezer contains only vodka. Typically a macguyver type person who can fix anything with a hammer and duct tape. Typically owned by either a practical shooter who understands the limitations of the cartridge, or someone who has unrealistic expectations and blames everything on the sights or wind.

              PSA/Apoc/Red-X/EP-Armory etc: The budget conscious homebuilder who doesnt generally attend classes or shoot their rifles much. PSA's upper tiered guns are decent but generally all within that price bracket have lower grade and batch tested components. The owners are typically fine wjth this, and buy build kits just to say they built another rifle for the sake of building another rifle; nothing more. Typically owns 6 or more but pops in on discussions involving $1,500+ rifles to say why theirs is just as good. Hard pass on all others in its price bracket.

              CZ attracts alot of target shooters. In the US not many people buy them for work related uses and moreso use them for target shooting or competiton.

              Glock: Typically purchased by people who put function first. Widely customizeable but most people i know just stipple them and change the sights. A practical shooters gun unless its a .40. If seen in .40, be a good samaritan take them under your wing and explain why .40 sucks. Caters to alot of LEO by low low prices and/or blue label.

              Hipoint: Caters to the occasional customer that genuinely cant afford anything else for one reason or another, but mostly to ignorant customers who think its the same thing as a glock/m&p/xd/etc.

              Strike Industries/ Fab Defense/ Tapco: Typically owners who lack common sense or knowledge when it comes to what makes a quality rifle. Typically suckered by gimmicky marketing without much trouble.

              80℅ Lowers (All): Typically buy alot of tin foil and has their location services disabled on their Nokia cellphone. Typically attributes ownership of a mill as machinist qualifications, then posts a thread asking why their rifle isnt working correctly.



              Just my observations. There are obviously small exceptions in every category.
              aww gee my feelings are hurt by some of your descriptions and I'm feeling bullied. I need a safety pin and safe space.
              If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does a bear still s**t there?

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              • #8
                Jimmy's
                Veteran Member
                • May 2016
                • 2600

                In short, you better believe it.

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                • #9
                  Mitch
                  Mostly Harmless
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6580

                  Originally posted by vgman94
                  I have a theory I want proven or disproven by the knowledgable here: Do some companies cater more towards certain sectors of the shooting community than others? I mean like, some cater to hunters, others the self-defense crowd, others for competitive shooting. If I am correct and some cater more to some types than others, my real question is which companies would you guys consider to be a certain "type" of gun company?
                  All companies do this. It's called market segmentation.
                  Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                  Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                  • #10
                    bigbearbear
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 5378

                    There are a lot of companies who have specialized focus. Companies like Perazzi, Beretta and Browning etc. Have a strong focus on shotguns. Perazzin in particular, focus on high end shotguns used in competition, you'll see their guns used in Olympic level competition frequently.

                    In California, Weatherby is known for their affordable and highly accurate bolt action guns.

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                    • #11
                      Divernhunter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2010
                      • 8753

                      Sure many companies cater to a select market. That is the nature of the business. Not every person who uses a shotgun wants/needs a $20,000 O/U like many trap shooters have. Others only deal with the AR crowd and such.
                      A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                      NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                      SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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                      • #12
                        Mr. Beretta
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 6614

                        Originally posted by CouchOperator
                        KAC, LMT, FN typically cater to the military and contracts, and their guns and parts trickle into the civilian market but not their main focus. Good guns typically shot alot by their customers.

                        Colt caters to whoever will still buy their crap after they burned the civilian market. The LE6920 is a decent entry rifle.

                        LWRC caters to people that dont want to admit DI guns work. Those owners should just buy an AK.

                        Salient/Agency/Falkor cater to the instagram queens. Only ever taken out of the safe to be oiled or photographed.

                        BCM caters to whoever is an up and coming instructor so they can pimp their guns in the next Panteo dvd. Good guns though.
                        Daniel Defense attracts a similar customer base, and are more vocal about their ownership of a DD. Good guns, typically their owners do shoot them alot. Chevy vs Ford between BCM and DD.

                        Noveske caters to a small fanbase who chase the iron cross. Very trendy folk. Generally people who pursue accuracy as the most important feature in their rifles.
                        EraThr3 is similar but more expensive, and heavier on the lifestyle/trendy factor.

                        DSA: caters decent rifles for collectors and people too cheap to buy AR-10s, yet with enough common sense to not buy a PTR. Also heard talking about the Rhodesian bush wars, and typically seen at the range with short shorts and a baby poop yellow FAL.


                        LaRue: Caters to the more serious precision shooters, generally with a bigger budget than Noveske fans. Typically profess Mark LaRue as a god and hang on to his every word, which is kind of strange. Also good guns

                        Hk: Caters to people who tell you how great the MP5 is even though they own a USP and have never touched a real HK subgun. Typically only owns 2 mags because they have no more budget left for $70 pistol mags. A strange bunch and by far the most brandloyal. Typically owns a PTR91 and pretends its a G3. Known to load rounds backwards in mags based off the incompetent companys press release material as a long running joke. Constantly reminds you that Glock didnt invent the first polymer gun, even though glock made the first good polymer gun.

                        Warsport: Attracts fools who hate their money. Typically "Chris Costa" is near the top in their browser history. Typically never seen a range in its life.

                        Springfield Armory M1A: Typically purchased by an individual who professes it as "The riflemans rifle" as if shooting a good group with outdated technology validates the platform as relevant in todays world. Typically ends up spending alot of money to unitize and fix the rifle only to come on the internet to tell everyone why their AR that produces the same groups from the factory sucks. An odd group, but a small percentage do put in the work to make the best of the rifle.

                        DDI & Century Arms (AK47): Often only owns a hammer and the freezer contains only vodka. Typically a macguyver type person who can fix anything with a hammer and duct tape. Typically owned by either a practical shooter who understands the limitations of the cartridge, or someone who has unrealistic expectations and blames everything on the sights or wind.
                        Subcategory: Arsenal: See above, but minus the hammer and other hand tools. Wouldnt dare risk scuffing the finish.

                        IWI: Caters to persons too elite and exclusive for the garbage spewed out by America's foolish and sloppy special operations community, yet not comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber due to poor trigger discipline. Gets majority of their training from dubious Israeli expatriates on youtube. Generally seen with a non-sbr Tavor which is only an inch or so shorter than a standard configuration AR.

                        PSA/Apoc/Red-X/EP-Armory etc: The budget conscious homebuilder who doesnt generally attend classes or shoot their rifles much. PSA's upper tiered guns are decent but generally all within that price bracket have lower grade and batch tested components. The owners are typically fine wjth this, and buy build kits just to say they built another rifle for the sake of building another rifle; nothing more. Typically owns 6 or more but pops in on discussions involving $1,500+ rifles to say why theirs is just as good. Hard pass on all others in its price bracket.

                        CZ attracts alot of target shooters. In the US not many people buy them for work related uses and moreso use them for target shooting or competiton.

                        Glock: Typically purchased by people who put function first. Widely customizeable but most people i know just stipple them and change the sights. A practical shooters gun unless its a .40. If seen in .40, be a good samaritan take them under your wing and explain why .40 sucks. Caters to alot of LEO by low low prices and/or blue label.

                        Hipoint: Caters to the occasional customer that genuinely cant afford anything else for one reason or another, but mostly to ignorant customers who think its the same thing as a glock/m&p/xd/etc.


                        Masterpiece Arms: Caters Mac 10's for those with Boyz n da Hood and Menace II Society in their recently watched list on Netflix.

                        Strike Industries/ Fab Defense/ Tapco: Typically owners who lack common sense or knowledge when it comes to what makes a quality rifle. Typically suckered by gimmicky marketing without much trouble.

                        80℅ Lowers (All): Typically buy alot of tin foil and has their location services disabled on their Nokia cellphone. Typically attributes ownership of a mill as machinist qualifications, then posts a thread asking why their rifle isnt working correctly.



                        Just my observations. There are obviously small exceptions in every category.

                        Exactly what I was going to say!

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                        • #13
                          d.b.cooper
                          Member
                          • Dec 2016
                          • 175

                          this guy has a lot of time on his hands ! but good stuff

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                          • #14
                            vgman94
                            Member
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 136

                            Originally posted by CouchOperator
                            KAC, LMT, FN typically cater to the military and contracts, and their guns and parts trickle into the civilian market but not their main focus. Good guns typically shot alot by their customers.

                            Colt caters to whoever will still buy their crap after they burned the civilian market. The LE6920 is a decent entry rifle.

                            LWRC caters to people that dont want to admit DI guns work. Those owners should just buy an AK.

                            Salient/Agency/Falkor cater to the instagram queens. Only ever taken out of the safe to be oiled or photographed.

                            BCM caters to whoever is an up and coming instructor so they can pimp their guns in the next Panteo dvd. Good guns though.
                            Daniel Defense attracts a similar customer base, and are more vocal about their ownership of a DD. Good guns, typically their owners do shoot them alot. Chevy vs Ford between BCM and DD.

                            Noveske caters to a small fanbase who chase the iron cross. Very trendy folk. Generally people who pursue accuracy as the most important feature in their rifles.
                            EraThr3 is similar but more expensive, and heavier on the lifestyle/trendy factor.

                            DSA: caters decent rifles for collectors and people too cheap to buy AR-10s, yet with enough common sense to not buy a PTR. Also heard talking about the Rhodesian bush wars, and typically seen at the range with short shorts and a baby poop yellow FAL.


                            LaRue: Caters to the more serious precision shooters, generally with a bigger budget than Noveske fans. Typically profess Mark LaRue as a god and hang on to his every word, which is kind of strange. Also good guns

                            Hk: Caters to people who tell you how great the MP5 is even though they own a USP and have never touched a real HK subgun. Typically only owns 2 mags because they have no more budget left for $70 pistol mags. A strange bunch and by far the most brandloyal. Typically owns a PTR91 and pretends its a G3. Known to load rounds backwards in mags based off the incompetent companys press release material as a long running joke. Constantly reminds you that Glock didnt invent the first polymer gun, even though glock made the first good polymer gun.

                            Warsport: Attracts fools who hate their money. Typically "Chris Costa" is near the top in their browser history. Typically never seen a range in its life.

                            Springfield Armory M1A: Typically purchased by an individual who professes it as "The riflemans rifle" as if shooting a good group with outdated technology validates the platform as relevant in todays world. Typically ends up spending alot of money to unitize and fix the rifle only to come on the internet to tell everyone why their AR that produces the same groups from the factory sucks. An odd group, but a small percentage do put in the work to make the best of the rifle.

                            DDI & Century Arms (AK47): Often only owns a hammer and the freezer contains only vodka. Typically a macguyver type person who can fix anything with a hammer and duct tape. Typically owned by either a practical shooter who understands the limitations of the cartridge, or someone who has unrealistic expectations and blames everything on the sights or wind.
                            Subcategory: Arsenal: See above, but minus the hammer and other hand tools. Wouldnt dare risk scuffing the finish.

                            IWI: Caters to persons too elite and exclusive for the garbage spewed out by America's foolish and sloppy special operations community, yet not comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber due to poor trigger discipline. Gets majority of their training from dubious Israeli expatriates on youtube. Generally seen with a non-sbr Tavor which is only an inch or so shorter than a standard configuration AR.

                            PSA/Apoc/Red-X/EP-Armory etc: The budget conscious homebuilder who doesnt generally attend classes or shoot their rifles much. PSA's upper tiered guns are decent but generally all within that price bracket have lower grade and batch tested components. The owners are typically fine wjth this, and buy build kits just to say they built another rifle for the sake of building another rifle; nothing more. Typically owns 6 or more but pops in on discussions involving $1,500+ rifles to say why theirs is just as good. Hard pass on all others in its price bracket.

                            CZ attracts alot of target shooters. In the US not many people buy them for work related uses and moreso use them for target shooting or competiton.

                            Glock: Typically purchased by people who put function first. Widely customizeable but most people i know just stipple them and change the sights. A practical shooters gun unless its a .40. If seen in .40, be a good samaritan take them under your wing and explain why .40 sucks. Caters to alot of LEO by low low prices and/or blue label.

                            Hipoint: Caters to the occasional customer that genuinely cant afford anything else for one reason or another, but mostly to ignorant customers who think its the same thing as a glock/m&p/xd/etc.


                            Masterpiece Arms: Caters Mac 10's for those with Boyz n da Hood and Menace II Society in their recently watched list on Netflix.

                            Strike Industries/ Fab Defense/ Tapco: Typically owners who lack common sense or knowledge when it comes to what makes a quality rifle. Typically suckered by gimmicky marketing without much trouble.

                            80℅ Lowers (All): Typically buy alot of tin foil and has their location services disabled on their Nokia cellphone. Typically attributes ownership of a mill as machinist qualifications, then posts a thread asking why their rifle isnt working correctly.



                            Just my observations. There are obviously small exceptions in every category.
                            Oh God, please do Sig Sauer, FN Herstal and Ruger. I need more!

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                            • #15
                              L84CABO
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8762

                              Originally posted by CouchOperator
                              KAC, LMT, FN typically cater to the military and contracts, and their guns and parts trickle into the civilian market but not their main focus. Good guns typically shot alot by their customers.

                              Colt caters to whoever will still buy their crap after they burned the civilian market. The LE6920 is a decent entry rifle.

                              LWRC caters to people that dont want to admit DI guns work. Those owners should just buy an AK.

                              Salient/Agency/Falkor cater to the instagram queens. Only ever taken out of the safe to be oiled or photographed.

                              BCM caters to whoever is an up and coming instructor so they can pimp their guns in the next Panteo dvd. Good guns though.
                              Daniel Defense attracts a similar customer base, and are more vocal about their ownership of a DD. Good guns, typically their owners do shoot them alot. Chevy vs Ford between BCM and DD.

                              Noveske caters to a small fanbase who chase the iron cross. Very trendy folk. Generally people who pursue accuracy as the most important feature in their rifles.
                              EraThr3 is similar but more expensive, and heavier on the lifestyle/trendy factor.

                              DSA: caters decent rifles for collectors and people too cheap to buy AR-10s, yet with enough common sense to not buy a PTR. Also heard talking about the Rhodesian bush wars, and typically seen at the range with short shorts and a baby poop yellow FAL.


                              LaRue: Caters to the more serious precision shooters, generally with a bigger budget than Noveske fans. Typically profess Mark LaRue as a god and hang on to his every word, which is kind of strange. Also good guns

                              Hk: Caters to people who tell you how great the MP5 is even though they own a USP and have never touched a real HK subgun. Typically only owns 2 mags because they have no more budget left for $70 pistol mags. A strange bunch and by far the most brandloyal. Typically owns a PTR91 and pretends its a G3. Known to load rounds backwards in mags based off the incompetent companys press release material as a long running joke. Constantly reminds you that Glock didnt invent the first polymer gun, even though glock made the first good polymer gun.

                              Warsport: Attracts fools who hate their money. Typically "Chris Costa" is near the top in their browser history. Typically never seen a range in its life.

                              Springfield Armory M1A: Typically purchased by an individual who professes it as "The riflemans rifle" as if shooting a good group with outdated technology validates the platform as relevant in todays world. Typically ends up spending alot of money to unitize and fix the rifle only to come on the internet to tell everyone why their AR that produces the same groups from the factory sucks. An odd group, but a small percentage do put in the work to make the best of the rifle.

                              DDI & Century Arms (AK47): Often only owns a hammer and the freezer contains only vodka. Typically a macguyver type person who can fix anything with a hammer and duct tape. Typically owned by either a practical shooter who understands the limitations of the cartridge, or someone who has unrealistic expectations and blames everything on the sights or wind.
                              Subcategory: Arsenal: See above, but minus the hammer and other hand tools. Wouldnt dare risk scuffing the finish.

                              IWI: Caters to persons too elite and exclusive for the garbage spewed out by America's foolish and sloppy special operations community, yet not comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber due to poor trigger discipline. Gets majority of their training from dubious Israeli expatriates on youtube. Generally seen with a non-sbr Tavor which is only an inch or so shorter than a standard configuration AR.

                              PSA/Apoc/Red-X/EP-Armory etc: The budget conscious homebuilder who doesnt generally attend classes or shoot their rifles much. PSA's upper tiered guns are decent but generally all within that price bracket have lower grade and batch tested components. The owners are typically fine wjth this, and buy build kits just to say they built another rifle for the sake of building another rifle; nothing more. Typically owns 6 or more but pops in on discussions involving $1,500+ rifles to say why theirs is just as good. Hard pass on all others in its price bracket.

                              CZ attracts alot of target shooters. In the US not many people buy them for work related uses and moreso use them for target shooting or competiton.

                              Glock: Typically purchased by people who put function first. Widely customizeable but most people i know just stipple them and change the sights. A practical shooters gun unless its a .40. If seen in .40, be a good samaritan take them under your wing and explain why .40 sucks. Caters to alot of LEO by low low prices and/or blue label.

                              Hipoint: Caters to the occasional customer that genuinely cant afford anything else for one reason or another, but mostly to ignorant customers who think its the same thing as a glock/m&p/xd/etc.


                              Masterpiece Arms: Caters Mac 10's for those with Boyz n da Hood and Menace II Society in their recently watched list on Netflix.

                              Strike Industries/ Fab Defense/ Tapco: Typically owners who lack common sense or knowledge when it comes to what makes a quality rifle. Typically suckered by gimmicky marketing without much trouble.

                              80℅ Lowers (All): Typically buy alot of tin foil and has their location services disabled on their Nokia cellphone. Typically attributes ownership of a mill as machinist qualifications, then posts a thread asking why their rifle isnt working correctly.



                              Just my observations. There are obviously small exceptions in every category.
                              Soooo much anger!
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