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  • dwalker
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 2714

    SHOT Show 2017

    Well I went to SHOT and it was a good time. I had specific things I needed to do so only spent a day and a half at the show. I was there as a guest of Thunderbeast, and really was left to my own agenda. Here are my observations.

    The new Burris RTS 1-6 scope is under $400 with the Burris mount and its a great scope for an AR. It IS better than the Vortex and other offerings in the price range.

    The new Vortex 1-6 and 8x scopes are meh. At least they are pricing them more realistically, probably in response to Burris

    The SIG scopes are nice, but just MHO they are overpriced. Yes, I understand they have improved quality a ton and have lured staff from Leupold over, but with the competition putting out equal or even better product at lower pricing I would have to be a real fan to buy one.

    The Eotech Vudu scopes are nice. A tick on the pricey side, but still very nice. The 1-8 has great potential for a 3-gun competitor. The 8-32 is probably going to find a place on my 6.5 Creedmore.

    The Fix rifle from Q is the truth. Of all the high speed rifles I looked at it is the only one I wanted to whip the CC out and purchase.

    The Howa chassis system rifle is also on the list of must buys. If you have a Howa rifle then your existing short action will drop into the chassis without much effort on your part. Their new rifles in 6.5 Grendel and 6.5CM are priced perfectly and the actions are still typical Howa, butter smooth and tight.

    JP has a lot of cool new stuff, including a sweet super low profile adjustable gas block for pinned/welded barrels that allows you to remove the gas block for cleaning and service. Their weighted bolt carrier is also typical JP, beautifully done and it works.

    If your building a 16 or 18in 3-gun rifle you should look long and hard at the carbon handguards from Lancer and Brigand Arms. They will help balance out the gun and are super tough. Lancer is making carbon handguards for Faxon arms as well.

    For those of us in FREE AMERICA the Thunderbeast cans are as always top notch, and Ray and Zac have spent a huge amount of money on equipment to make the best product possible. They are buying entire mill runs of titanium and constantly experimenting with new material and technology to make quieter and more durable suppressors. The new cans from Q are also pretty sweet, and Silencerco has introduced a pistol similar to the Tac Sol Rugers and Brownings that are integrally suppressed and they are making it available to the civilian market.

    Cerakote and other finishes were there, same old stuff, blah blah meh..but I did have a great talk with H&M which does a black nitride surface treatment that does not add any buildup and is super tough. Looks to be about $200 to for all the steel parts for a pistol, and they can do any ferrous metal including stainless. They do a REM polish that yields a super slick and tough finish that looks like a high-end OEM finish. They will also do pistol/rifle barrels and the entire barrel- including the rifling- gets the finish and much like melonite it reduces fouling and wear. Since it adds no material and changes no dimension the break-in after the barrel is done is very short.

    Tons of other stuff I could talk about but those are the things that stuck with me.
    Last edited by dwalker; 01-19-2017, 10:22 AM.
    Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

    Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".
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    kriller134
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1302

    Are you talking about the howa hcr? What's the price?

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    • #3
      Spyder
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2008
      • 17167

      You're just now reporting back about SHOT 2016?

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      • #4
        dwalker
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 2714

        Originally posted by Spyder
        You're just now reporting back about SHOT 2016?
        Yeah, I really have not caught up on my sleep I guess! I corrected it thanks!
        Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

        Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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        • #5
          dwalker
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 2714

          Originally posted by kriller134
          Are you talking about the howa hcr? What's the price?
          Yes the HCR which is listed under $1500 depending on caliber and options. It comes with a better than decent Nikko Stirling scope and EGW 20MOA base and rings.

          The 6.5 Grendel is going to be available in the MiniAction with a medium heavy barrel for under $500 list price.
          Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

          Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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          • #6
            kriller134
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1302

            Originally posted by dwalker
            Yes the HCR which is listed under $1500 depending on caliber and options. It comes with a better than decent Nikko Stirling scope and EGW 20MOA base and rings.

            The 6.5 Grendel is going to be available in the MiniAction with a medium heavy barrel for under $500 list price.
            Thanks for the info. Would you say it's better than the rpr?

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            • #7
              dwalker
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 2714

              Originally posted by kriller134
              Thanks for the info. Would you say it's better than the rpr?
              Well, I like them both!
              But, I have always like the Howa actions, they are super smooth, all of mine lock down like a bank vault, and make great shooting guns. I will be shooting a Howa soon and will have a better idea which I like more. One of the key points of the HOWA is the chassis is made by Accurate Mag and uses standardized- I think AI- mags, which means good quality mags are easy to get and replace and allow use of long COL rounds.
              Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

              Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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              • #8
                kriller134
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1302

                Thanks D. I hope to hear more on your comparisons.

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                • #9
                  Fde up
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 27

                  Here is all the free swag I managed to compile

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                  • #10
                    Scratch705
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2009
                    • 12530

                    stuff like this is why some people want to sneak into shot show.

                    all the little swag items
                    Originally posted by leelaw
                    Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                    Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                    Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                    Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                    Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                    • #11
                      dwalker
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 2714

                      Originally posted by Fde up
                      Here is all the free swag I managed to compile

                      I got a few small things but I was really there with a purpose and not to just scarf up anything I could get my hands on. The folks at JP were nice enough to give me a patch though, as was Thunderbeast (go figure) and Safariland gave out some 40% off cards (op to $400 value, so $1000 in gear potential) I will be passing on to either competitive shooters starting out or (and this is way less likely given the circles I travel in) a freshie LEO who needs to get rigged up.

                      Oh and I got some Chapstick the Navy's SEAL folks were giving out which is useful.
                      Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

                      Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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                      • #12
                        Fozzie TheBear
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 616

                        Guess I need to tell my parents to up their game. All I got was a few catalogs, couple pins and a beanie. They were only there one day and for a specific meeting but asked them to grab a few things if they could.

                        Last years was funny, they almost didn't get on the flight back with the bullet laser pointer.

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                        • #13
                          dwalker
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 2714

                          Originally posted by Fozzie TheBear
                          Guess I need to tell my parents to up their game. All I got was a few catalogs, couple pins and a beanie. They were only there one day and for a specific meeting but asked them to grab a few things if they could.

                          Last years was funny, they almost didn't get on the flight back with the bullet laser pointer.
                          Yeah I was there for a day and a half. No beanie though... missed out on that one.
                          Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

                          Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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                          • #14
                            FaxonFirearms
                            Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 219

                            "Lancer is making carbon handguards for Faxon arms as well."

                            Correct. We completely revamped the mounting design, making it stronger and significantly lighter.

                            Less than 8 ounces for a 15" rail, complete M-LOK, will ALL mounting hardware (including barrel nut).
                            QUALITY. INNOVATION. SERVICE.

                            The Director at Faxon Firearms. E-Mail me anytime: Nathan@faxonfirearms.com

                            "Manufacturing Strategic Solutions for Tactical Problems."

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                            • #15
                              zapatito92
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 768

                              nice, I wish I would have been able to check it out. I here they have some awesome deals

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