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  • gosparx
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 602

    Did they change the wording???

    Did the change the wording in the 'Dangerous Weapons Control Law" (12275-12290)?

    With regards to detachable magazines, I'd swear that it use to read: (or something very similar to this)

    (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle with a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

    But now it reads:

    (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

    I don't remember it saying "to accept a detachable magazine..."

    Not that it really matters, but if it was changed, then that could conceivably give the anti's a little more wiggle room in their argument against a fixed magazine via a bullet button.

    Just curious
    If you know how many guns you have... you don't have enough guns.

    People need to remember that the same guys who wrote the 1st Amendment, also wrote the 2nd Amendment... and for the same exact reasons.
  • #2
    tgriffin
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2006
    • 5175

    We need a source. If this is DOJ website material...its wishful thinking on their part. If the source is http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html ... that will be a different matter entirely.
    Originally posted by pullnshoot25
    I would love to have a hole cut in the ceiling so I could pop out and BAM! Hit 'em with my spice weasel...
    Originally posted by aileron
    The hassle would be between this. (_._) and this (_0_).
    Originally posted by Neil McCauley
    When Im wearing a miniskirt than yeah sure I use my foot to flush the urinals all the time!

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    • #3
      Jonathan Doe

      A hard copy California Penal Code says that. 12276.1(a)(1) PC

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      • #4
        gosparx
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 602

        It's what's on the AG website

        I was reading it off the Attorney General's website:

        If you know how many guns you have... you don't have enough guns.

        People need to remember that the same guys who wrote the 1st Amendment, also wrote the 2nd Amendment... and for the same exact reasons.

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        • #5
          thempopresense
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 1134

          Originally posted by topgun7
          A hard copy California Penal Code says that. 12276.1(a)(1) PC
          Says What?
          Originally posted by SOCMOB
          Straight out of 1984 by George Orwell, better read it before it's banned.

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          • #6
            CSDGuy
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 3763

            Right on the Cal DOJ website linked above, it says:

            (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
            and that's a copy/paste right off the website.

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            • #7
              Fate
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2006
              • 9545

              No change. No wiggle room vs. bullet buttons as those don't have "detachable magazines" according to the law. If you have to use a tool to detach it, it's not a "detachable magazine."
              sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

              "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
              , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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              • #8
                CmpsdNoMore
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 1699

                Doing a quick word search on that last link to the .gov site, they took the whole thing about "without use of a tool" (or however that goes) out.

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                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44662

                  Originally posted by CmpsdNoMore
                  Doing a quick word search on that last link to the .gov site, they took the whole thing about "without use of a tool" (or however that goes) out.
                  That was never in the Penal Code, but the 'capacity to accept' language was in SB23 in 1999.

                  The 'tool' language is in California Code of Regulations, Title 11
                  (a) "detachable magazine" means any ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with neither disassembly of the firearm action nor use of a tool being required. A bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool. Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine.
                  ETA: Somebody Got To Them: they correctly distinguish between 'clips' and 'magazines'.
                  Last edited by Librarian; 02-09-2009, 2:38 PM.
                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #10
                    CmpsdNoMore
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1699

                    Ah, I see.thanks for clearing that up.

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                    • #11
                      gosparx
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 602

                      Must just me my memory (or the memory of something else, somewhere else)

                      Just glad to hear they aren't trying to randomly change things around here... more than they already do!
                      If you know how many guns you have... you don't have enough guns.

                      People need to remember that the same guys who wrote the 1st Amendment, also wrote the 2nd Amendment... and for the same exact reasons.

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