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  • artthestampede
    Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 130

    Scenario for you guys

    My gf told me today that her coworker's bf was mugged outside his apartment the other night by 3 guys. One held a gun to him while the others took his belongings and patted him down. Once they took all his stuff, the guy shot him. The bullet went through his arm and hit his lung. The guy went to the hospital but he's ok.

    Question for you guys: if you were in this situation and had a CCW, how would u get out of this situation unharmed? Let's say the guy with gun is about 8 feet away so u cant really rush him or try to knock the gun away.
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    Echidin
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 3072

    Take one of the guys patting you down hostage and hold him ransom for your belongings. If the one with the gun cares anything about his buddy he'll give your belongings back to you, along with his gun. If not, then you have a human shield at your disposal.

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    • #3
      Blue
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 8069

      Originally posted by Echidin
      Take one of the guys patting you down hostage and hold him ransom for your belongings. If the one with the gun cares anything about his buddy he'll give your belongings back to you, along with his gun. If not, then you have a human shield at your disposal.
      If I managed to get one of the perps as a hostage, I'd probably still shoot the ****er with the gun.
      Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.
      Let my aim be true and my hand faster
      than those who would seek to destroy me.
      Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
      Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
      And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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      • #4
        SwissFluCase
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Jul 2008
        • 1322

        Note about 1:45. This guy is an IPSC champion in real life... Mindset is everything. If you have a CCW in these circumstances, you must fight. You cannot let a perp at your gun.

        "We don't discuss the governor's arsenal in detail" - Brown spokeswoman Elizabeth Ashford

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        • #5
          ricknadine1111
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 1261

          3 dead or in the process of dieing
          WHERED IT GO !, IT'S ONLY A LITTLE LEAD.LETER SEE ,UP 40 CLICKS AND LEFT 20 CLICKS," OH DARN, I DUNO WHERE IT IS?

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          • #6
            The SoCal Gunner
            Veteran Member
            • May 2006
            • 3319

            Try to avoid the situation by seeing it coming.

            Run for cover or try to get one of the thugs in the cross fire while I draw my own pistol.

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            • #7
              Beelzy
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2008
              • 9224

              The poor guy broke rule #1: Be aware of your suroundings.

              Myself, I would have cut the suckas up!

              I don't need a gun, I like a nice knife........up close and personal.
              "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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              • #8
                Turbinator
                Administrator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 11934

                Originally posted by artthestampede
                My gf told me today that her coworker's bf was mugged outside his apartment the other night by 3 guys. One held a gun to him while the others took his belongings and patted him down. Once they took all his stuff, the guy shot him. The bullet went through his arm and hit his lung. The guy went to the hospital but he's ok.
                Do you have any more details around the overall situation? Is his apartment complex gated? Is this guy a non-gun owner? Was he in condition white all the time?

                Would like to know a bit more so that we can assess what our answers might be.

                Turby

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                • #9
                  762cavalier
                  NRA Training Counselor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3626

                  I agree sounds like he failed basic situational awareness.
                  In any type of fight, & especially gun fights, there are no winners ..... just varying degrees of losers. The only fight you win is the one you never get into.

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                  • #10
                    squishyhead
                    Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 228

                    As I understand the situation, you have 1 perp armed with a handgun 8 feet in front of you and 2 unarmed perps on either side advancing toward you to take your belongings. According to most armed robbery statistics, if the perps don't shoot you as soon as they point the gun, they're not going to shoot you. Obviously statistics didn't do much for this poor guy. However, assuming you've trained yourself to draw your pistol quickly and get accurate rounds down range just as fast, I'd say your first target would definitely be the armed perp. You have two advantages in this situation. You've trained for this scenario hundreds of times, and you have the element of suprise. The armed perp most likely has not trained himself to react in this scenario, and upon realizing that you're pulling a gun on him, he will panic as will his two friends. Whether he starts spraying and praying or just starts running, the element of suprise has tipped the odds of winning this fight in your favor. There's never any gaurantee you're getting out of that fight unharmed, or even alive, but depending on your skill set your odds have definitely improved over hoping this thug is a really bad shot!

                    Like everyone has already said though, if you were paying attention you may have been able to avoid this situation all together.
                    "I have 3 lower receivers, 1 upper receiver and two middle fingers." -tiki

                    "As someone I know said one time, going after NFA stuff right now is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex. Babysteps..." -leitung

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                    • #11
                      Matt C
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7128

                      It's already been said, but situational awareness. Once they are up close and pointing a gun at you, it's probably not going to go well.
                      I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                      The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                      • #12
                        Greg-Dawg
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 7793

                        I'd use my kung fu ninja skillz.

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                        • #13
                          tyrist
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 4564

                          There if very little chance to escape unharmed if somebody is alread pointing a gun and plans to shoot you. You can however survie the encounter by fighting back but I doubt you would be "unharmed".

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                          • #14
                            Dr Rockso
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3701

                            Tactical headbutt.

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                            • #15
                              cxr
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1020

                              i have asked myself that same question lots of times about what do you do in a situation like that..


                              youtube handgun tactical shooting and there are some videos on how to handle that situation if you are CCW.


                              basically pull the gun start shooting from the hip, on the move.

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