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  • russ69
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 9348

    How long is the M4 with a 16 inch Barrel?

    This new 30 inch requirement has me puzzled. How long is the average M4 with a 16 inch barrel, A2 flash hider and the stock collapsed?
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  • #2
    tonyxcom
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2011
    • 6397

    An AR with a carbine buffer tube and a 16" barrel without a muzzle device is over 30"

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    • #3
      HardwoodRods
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1093

      It's fine
      "A free people ought to be armed" George Washington, 1790

      "Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they mean to have war, let it begin here" Capt. John Parker, 19 April 1776, Lexington Green

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      • #4
        baih777
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2011
        • 5679

        Originally posted by russ69
        This new 30 inch requirement has me puzzled. How long is the average M4 with a 16 inch barrel, A2 flash hider and the stock collapsed?
        What do you mean. New ?
        Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
        I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
        I'm Back.

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        • #5
          LeadFarmer74
          Veteran Member
          • May 2015
          • 3105

          Originally posted by baih777
          What do you mean. New ?
          The AW regs have it written slightly different then it was prior.
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          • #6
            tonyxcom
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2011
            • 6397

            Yes, the way you measure the 30 OAL has been changed to now include permanent attached muzzle devices.

            In practice, this tends to only effect bullpups and rifles with folding stocks and extended flash hiders.

            What new is that in order for any muzzle device to count towards the >30" OAL, the muzzle device has to be permanent. OR, registered as an assault weapon.

            Once you have a registered assault rifle, there seems to currently be a consensus that your AW now only needs to be >26" with a >16" barrel. So that means extended flash hiders can come off.

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            • #7
              baih777
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2011
              • 5679

              Gotta get caught up on some reading.
              Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
              I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
              I'm Back.

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              • #8
                Bullitt01
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 3905

                I believe it has been 30" OAL for a while now,,,not a new 2017 thing!?

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                • #9
                  tonyxcom
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 6397

                  Yes, always been 30" OAL.

                  The only change this year is that if you use a muzzle device to get there, it needs to be perm now.

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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19054

                    Mine is about 32 1/4". The flash hider adds about 1 1/4", so nominally it's about 31" to the end of the barrel.

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                    • #11
                      dieselpower
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 11471

                      My car-15 with 14.5" barrel +1.5" Flash Hider making a legal 16" barrel and standard 4 pos stock is 31.5". I used to keep it in a 30" zippered discrete case and it pushed out the sides slightly.

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