Primary & Secondary - Primal Violence *STRONG language*

[CouchOperator]

Worth your time if you carry a gun or intend on employing a gun/knife/etc in self defense. All my dumb forum bull**** bickering aside, this is probably the most important thing i could ever share with the community. Extreme language and material, i do NOT recommend watching with children in earshot. But, watch it.
NSFW

https://youtu.be/41R0LULh80Q

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[CouchOperator]

Librarian,
Whats the process to get this information out in an appropriate manner?

[dieselpower]

Librarian,
Whats the process to get this information out in an appropriate manner?

paste a link to the website with a warning, dont embed the file here.

here is a link to the interview and its not work safe, it contains strong adult language.
the interview is 3 freaking hours long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41R0LULh80Q

[CouchOperator]

paste a link to the website with a warning, dont embed the file here.

here is a link to the interview and its not work safe, it contains strong adult language.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41R0LULh80Q

10-4, thanks. NSFW but valuable

[AreWeFree]

Summary so far:
0min - 30min
Might makes right.
The world can be a tough place, some places are more dangerous than others.
Some people had a tough upbringing.
Thugs are dangerous people.
Thugs can be children or anyone.
Thugs commit senseless violence and make poor decisions, this can be for many reasons.
Circle of violence continues, it's a status thing like the Vikings, the more violent you are the longer they talk about you.
"Military operator types" don't have the proper experience to train you like a "street operator type" has. The military guys have "whitebread" upbringing and play by the rules, whereas Street Operators were killing people at an early age and have more experience in violence.
Gotta worry about the guys who don't care about rules, who take what they want and were produced in an environment of hate.
Most people have a "cowboy mentality" of judged by 12 instead of carried by 6 which they don't understand. If you lose in a court case your life is over and you'll be stuck with the very people you hate, living by their whim perhaps for the rest of your life. Much like dying but seeing everyone else move on without you.

30 - 60min
People aren't thinking of all the things you need to win a fight, meaning winning the legal battle.
Social aspects of being a person who can kill and commit heinous acts of violence means you lose friends and are treated differently.
People don't generally condone force or violence, and this kind of mentally affects people who commit force/violence because society doesn't accept them and judges them.
Guy describes a situation where a series of bad decisions when he was 18 culminated in a final altercation with 3 guys (who he had trouble with several times before) and how he escaped the event by stabbing one guy about 20 times before the guy dropped.
It's not easy to drop a man and it takes considerable violence/force, especially if they're drunk or on drugs.
After taking down 1 guy the other 2 guys backed off, then he went outside and waited for the police and claimed self defense, but he lost his court case and went to prison for 2 - 5 years.
He shouldn't have lost his court case because the guy who got stabbed testified in court it was a premeditated kidnapping attempt and he was drunk, etc.
Varg didn't put up with crap in prison and got in to trouble, ended up spending full 5 years. After getting out, continued to fight the case, judge reviewed it and said yeah the evidence points to self defense but he was incredibly violent with the knife, stabbing the guy at least 20 times.
Knives aren't suitable for self-defense because of a perception problem, it's perceived as barbaric and socially unacceptable.
Eventually he was exonerated.
Sometimes you win a fight against someone with gang affiliations and now you have a huge problem from retaliation. You don't understand what situational awareness is until you're captive in an atmosphere where people want to kill you but you don't know where it's going to come from. You become hyper vigilant and personal life becomes very difficult.
From his experience, 80% of people in prison should be exterminated, they are off the chain violent and have no hope. They don't fear anyone/anything and have no repercussions for their actions.
Bad dudes with the criminal mindset, you need to understand their decision making process and not their decisions, to deal with/counteract the problem. (Possibly meaning to protect yourself.)
When growing up people just go with the flow, it's not until you're a young adult that you can cognitively make good decisions. At that point your desires good/bad guide you.
People don't respect the potential adversary. Three types of fighter you'll face as a civilian, you have LE/Mil guys, sport/MMA guys, and then criminals. Criminals are the most hard core dudes, they are desensitized to danger/stress, don't care about dying.
The criminal mindset has an advantage for violence, they hate you, they have the experience to push through violence. You don't. They will kill for no reason, no care for rules.
Bad guy is focused, he hates, and he's going to act. They aren't dumb people, must respect the criminal or you'll be punished.

(The other guest "Roland" dry fires his glock through part of the 30 minutes, very distracting, sounds burnt out on life and jaded. Pretty sure he's been drinking.)

[AreWeFree]

60 - 90min
Roland dude spends a few minutes talking about during past wars, we dehumanized the enemy, and now we don't do that. Then describes some horrific events he saw overseas which haunt him.
(Just a note, host looks to be running a Zebra F-402 which is an excellent ballpoint pen, it's my favorite.)
There's an entire other world happening in this country where incredibly terrible things happen, where unbelievably violent things happen 24/7 for certain people. (Probably referring to horrific events, slavery, sex trade, many other just truly brutal primal things.)
This is a western problem, we've created a soft world, everywhere else this is normal life, people will kill you with a machete and it's normal.
You need to get on board with not being a victim, someone will be a victim, will it be you?
There are people out there who will stick a piece of metal in your neck before you even realize you were in a confrontation. You wont even get a chance.
You need to realize who is becoming a threat to you. Perhaps you need to react first in a wolf on wolf situation. (Although personally getting out of trouble early is better than getting in trouble.)
We're so soft now, that in a hunter on hunter situation, you see a guy put on a hood and pull a gun you need to kill him immediately before he starts shooting, but people now don't see it that way and expect you to wait for him to start killing before you can act. (This goes back to legal ramifications.)
Consider the distorted "reasonable people syndrome." (Again legal ramifications, and how you articulate the justification to people judging you.)

Roland dude starts talking about self incriminating himself during a self-defense or preservation of life scenario because of his online activity/posts. During a legitimate shoot, because you posted online previously about how you'd do "x" and "x" etc, your court case could go badly and that will be used as evidence against you.

90 - 120min
(Roland dude is mentally scarred, but makes an important point that don't be a racist, don't judge groups as a whole, anyone can be good or bad, but instead judge on their actions and hold people accountable to better themselves.)
Conditioning, both physical/mental are important. Mental preparation, watch all the gang, convict, gangland, criminal, inside the walls, etc that you can to mentally prepare for these criminals and understand how they think and work.
Orientation, what's going to govern how you make decisions when approached with a violent situation. It is your per-existing condition that determines how you will react, upbringing, religion, etc.
Pay attention to how someone communicates, how they communicate is how they will fight.

(holy hell roland, knock it off with the damn glock dry fire. maybe quit drinking too, and go get some mental help then take a nice vacation. Turn your damn phone to silent.)
Talks about analogy for needing space for a fight, don't walk yourself in to a corner.

[sarbiker]

Thanks for the recap.

[Half Cocked]

I agree with Varg's assessment that criminals have the advantage in a conflict in that they follow the law of the jungle and not society's restrictive laws that put the "law abiding" person at a disadvantage. One of Obozo's advisors (and liberal anti-gun nut) claims that her grandfather died during an encounter with burglars because he had a gun.

https://newsline.com/obama-senior-adviser-says-her-grandfather-died-because-he-had-gun-for-self-defense/

Jarrett's grandfather apparently died because even though he had a gun, he lacked the survival instinct to use it to save himself. Owning a gun for self-defense is not enough; you need to have the will to use it.

[AreWeFree]

Am I wasting time with the summary? I have 1.5 hours left of the video, wont bother if no one cares.

[CouchOperator]

Am I wasting time with the summary? I have 1.5 hours left of the video, wont bother if no one cares.

Youve gone through the meat and potatoes.

[AreWeFree]

Youve gone through the meat and potatoes.

I'll finish posting then for anyone interested.

Have you seen Paul Howe Combat Mindset?
I'm not a legit dude, and you might be, but that video changed my life, I'll never forget it. Do not watch it with other people, there is graphic stuff in there.

[AreWeFree]

120 - 160min

Everything is built off condition and orientation.
There are three components, mission, training, and testing.
You need to identify your mission. A lot of people get this wrong, for instance, your mission is "to make it home every night." Then you say if someone is in danger at a gas station you'll stop and intervene, but this deviates from your mission and leads to mistakes and you will screw yourself.
If your mission is to make it home to your family every night, then stick to your mission and train for it.
There are objectives, parameters, rules of engagement, risk assessment, and procedures to deal with those things.
Your objective is your mission statement.
Your rules of engagement are different if you're a civilian vs. LE vs. soldier.
The training protocol is built off the mission statement.
There are skills, techniques, procedures, and standards. (For your training program)

Skills are fundamental marksmanship, safety, etc.
Techniques are high level development based on skills.
Procedures are skills and techniques combined together to solve problems. Allows for the response to an evolving situation.
Tactics are determined by your mission, which is pre-planned to execute a specific goal. These are mostly bull**** and irrelevant to the civilian (however I think of tactics as the execution of goals between synchronized peoples)

Definition of advanced training: point where basic fundamentals are repeatable enough to begin to build higher order and more complex tasks off of them. The fundamentals become reliable, and are mastered, to combine those together and create complex tasks reliably and safely.

Then there are standards: There are people who do a lot of training but they're not trying to hit goals or performance levels. You need to have a standard you're trying to hit. Then set a higher standard.

Finally there's testing. An "untested hypotenuse" is what most people are walking around with. They have never tested under a time constraint or stress condition.
Frequent testing provides orientation and confidence that you can perform under a proven theory, not an unsubstantiated hypothesis.
Force on force training is the key. This is necessary to affect your decision making process.

It takes repetition, positive reinforcement is necessary, just because you complete one class doesn't make you ready for the next.
A person will only retain what they perceive to be important.
Slow and correctly is better than fast and incorrectly. However you practice is how you'll do it when you need to do it.