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  • CavTrooper
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2007
    • 5944

    Idiot plinkers.

    Story clipped from another site:

    This past weekend, my best friend and I went to the desert to hunt the yotes one last time before we give them a break till September. We were supposed to have one of our CPC members with us but I'm glad he had to work. Since he couldn't come, we decided to try an area that we had shot yotes in last year at this time. We got to our old area at 0445hrs, got our gear on and headed into the area. When it got light enough to see the ground (around 0615hrs), we started calling. Nothing on the first stand after 20 minutes so we left and hiked around a point and back into a canyon. Did another stand for about 15 minutes and nothing so we decided to leave this area for another about 20 miles away. As we packed up and began our hike back to the vehicles, I hear what sounded like a ricochet just to our left followed by a huge BANG! We both ran for the boulders to our left and took cover. All of a sudden, shots were ringing out every where. I looked at my watch and it was just after 0830hrs. I started yelling at the top of my lungs but it wasn't heard with all the shooting. We tried to move up thru the canyon using the sidewalls and boulders to cover us between shots. There was no way anyone could see us because we were both in total camo from head to toe and even our t-shirts were camo. The only thing I could think of was there was a large group shooting into this area without investigating it to see if anyone had been camping back here. My partner was so scared that he said he was going to stay until it was dark. I said "You're nuts. It's just coming up on 9 AM". I told him to stay behind the boulders and I'd try to get them to stop. I found a large piece of tree branch in the sand wash so I ran to it and got behind the rocks again. I went thru my back pack and found my folded orange safety vest and some rope. I tied it to the branch and between the shooting pauses, managed to get to a high spot without exposing myself. I started waving the branch and vest above my head and in minutes, the shooting stopped. I stood up and looked over the boulders with my bino's to see a line of what looked to be 40-50 people with guns at their sides or on the tables about 500yds away. Then a truck with about 4 people came down the sand wash and met up with me. They were so shocked to see me and then my partner about 100yds down the canyon. He didn't come out till he heard voices. On our way out in the truck, I was talking to this guy (No names or Club names will be given to protect all involved as no one was injured and no one is at fault) who says that they were told by the BLM that this area was open for shooting and didn't expect anyone would be down there since it is an open shoot area. I couldn't believe all the targets and junk that I could now see in the area. My partner and I didn't know this either because we had not been there for a year or so and it was dark when we walked into the area. This club had been shooting there on weekends since the desert got cooler. No wonder there aren't any coyotes in the area! We won't be going back there any more and will not try any areas without scouting them first. Lesson's learned!!!

    Damn. I see a few things wrong here. Sounds to me like the target shooters (#1) werent using a backstop, (#2) didnt clear the downrange area before firing (#3) arent cleaning up thier trash after shooting, and (#4) are causing this area to be unusable by anyone else.

    Dont be like those target shooters. If you were one of those target shooters, please fix yourselves before you kill somebody.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by CavTrooper; 02-03-2009, 8:33 PM.
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    5150Marcelo
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2008
    • 7681

    Very good point. Ive been shot at before, couple times intentionally, and once mistakenly. Either way, its not fun, and really not that hard to clear the range and make sure you HAVE a back stop.
    Last edited by 5150Marcelo; 02-03-2009, 10:03 PM. Reason: Ive been shot AT
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    • #3
      rg_1111@yahoo.com
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2003
      • 5707

      Always take more junk out than you brought in. Always have a back stop. Glad to here your alright.

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      • #4
        uxo2
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4003

        So you have'nt been there in a year..

        Your on BLM..

        Thier responsibility to clear first....
        But your IN CAMO....

        And they'er the Idiots ???


        Idiots for trashing the area yes...

        But what about you...
        Surely you have some blame to take..


        Why did'nt they see your vehical?
        Was it Camo too












        Good to see you lived to tells about it.
        Last edited by uxo2; 02-03-2009, 8:57 PM.
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        Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
        One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
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        • #5
          devildog999
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2008
          • 5534

          Way too close a call there
          Last edited by devildog999; 02-03-2009, 10:09 PM.
          Originally posted by TRAP55
          Or your ammo stash has replaced your wifes parking spot in the garage.
          When my neighbor asked what all those crates were, I told him if he sees smoke coming from my garage, and me running down the street......he better catch up!
          Originally posted by Steve O
          Just go to safeway to shop for food. The young good looking couple buying healthy food...they're a new couple. The fat ones wearing ****ty clothes not caring about how they look, getting frozen food...they're married!

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          • #6
            Rob454
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Feb 2006
            • 11254

            How do you know that the stuff they were shooting at was brought in by them or jsut left on the land? Not really anyones fault IMO. you were there shooting coyotes and they were there shooting guns. I know everyone thinks they shoudl of seen you but if your attention is on a target youre not gonna notice somethign in cammo moving slowly behind a rock.
            Glad youre ok though. its not liek those shooters were really out gunnin gor you or your buddy. I guess i woudl be mad but if you put yourself in their shoes........
            Either way just watch way more carefully. Unfortunately you have to watch out for fools and idiots not the other way around

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            • #7
              B.D.Dubloon
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 4873

              Originally posted by 5150Marcelo
              Very good point. Ive been shot before, couple times intentionally, and once mistakenly. Either way, its not fun, and really not that hard to clear the range and make sure you HAVE a back stop.
              Did you mean to say you've been shot at, or that you have been shot? Just wondering, I am soory if you have been shot three times before.

              BDD

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              • #8
                BroncoBob
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2008
                • 6019

                It can happen to anyone. I'm just glad fellow CPC members didn't get shot.
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                • #9
                  sn0rky
                  Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 320

                  Originally posted by uxo2
                  So you have'nt been there in a year..

                  Your on BLM..

                  Thier responsibility to clear first....
                  But your IN CAMO....

                  And they'er the Idiots ???


                  Good to see you lived to tells about it.
                  im gonna have to agree with you on this, sorry OP.

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                  • #10
                    5150Marcelo
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 7681

                    Originally posted by B.D.Dubloon
                    Did you mean to say you've been shot at, or that you have been shot? Just wondering, I am soory if you have been shot three times before.

                    BDD
                    Ooops, sorry. I meant to say Ive een shot at.
                    Handmade Predator/Coyote Calls!!!
                    Originally posted by ColdSteel14;
                    Spermicidal rubbers! On the other hand.. Man.. That spermicide doesn't taste very good. AT ALL!
                    Originally posted by Slayer;
                    Holy Lord....why would a dude know what spermicide taste like?
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                    • #11
                      5150Marcelo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 7681

                      Originally posted by sn0rky
                      im gonna have to agree with you on this, sorry OP.
                      You guys need to read this a little closer. First thing OP says is "story clipped from another site"

                      OP was just posting this here for us to read. Calmados!
                      Handmade Predator/Coyote Calls!!!
                      Originally posted by ColdSteel14;
                      Spermicidal rubbers! On the other hand.. Man.. That spermicide doesn't taste very good. AT ALL!
                      Originally posted by Slayer;
                      Holy Lord....why would a dude know what spermicide taste like?
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                      • #12
                        rayra
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 1747

                        ...or on the tables about 500yds away.
                        ...they were told by the BLM that this area was open for shooting and didn't expect anyone would be down there since it is an open shoot area.
                        ...I couldn't believe all the targets and junk that I could now see in the area. My partner and I didn't know this either because we had not been there for a year or so and it was dark when we walked into the area. ...



                        Looks like the OP's rant is completely inverted as to where the blame lay. The OP went blindly traipsing around an established impact area.

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                        • #13
                          CavTrooper
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 5944

                          First off gentlemen, this was a story clipped from another site, it wasnt me. Had this been me the story wouldve started with:

                          "no sh*t, there I was...."

                          and ended with:

                          "....my execution is scheduled for the morning."

                          but thanks for the concern!

                          Instead of multi-quoting and responding point by point, Ill just lay it out there.

                          BLM land is there for everyone to use, shooters, hunters, hikers, off roaders... everyone. Replace the 2 hunters in camo with whatever you identify most with, hippies in a drum circle, researchers studying cactus, mall ninjas practicing their mrs fields cookies extraction techniques... whatever. The plain and simple facts are that the target shooters are 100% in the wrong for not using a backstop and not clearing the downrange area, at the least.

                          BLM is open land, there are no established firing lines, no range fans, no RSOs, its up to the individuals to ensure they are being safe, these idiots obviously failed in that respect. Im amazed that anyone would try to defend or justify the actions of these idiots and makes me wonder what kind of shooters they are.

                          The trash left behind is just another example of plinkers being totally and completely inconsiderate to everyone else and totally ignorant as to the image they are portraying of shooters everywhere. These types of folks are the part of the reason that public lands are being closed off all over the state.

                          Its sad that anyone here would condone this sorts of actions, disappointing really.

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                          • #14
                            Dr Rockso
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3701

                            Originally posted by CavTrooper
                            The plain and simple facts are that the target shooters are 100% in the wrong for not using a backstop and not clearing the downrange area, at the least.
                            +1
                            Know your target and what's beyond it. I don't see how anyone is defending the plinkers.

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                            • #15
                              jamesob
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4821

                              they are damn lucky number one. number 2 whats the point in being in camoflauge? i don't know why people do that if they are just target shooting.

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