Cerokote SBE Gone Wrong

[Akareddog]

Thanks for reviewing my first post and helping me out.

I'm an avid duck hunter and I recently decided to have my H & K Super Black Eagle cerakote. I took it to a local gunsmith and had them inspect the gun since it's had a lot of rounds thru the gun. This gun has never had any problems cycling. even at below zero temperatures. The gunsmith said the inside for the receiver looked like normal wear.

I picked up the gun in August from the gunsmith. When I got home I inspected the gun and I noticed they sprayed the inside of the receiver and including my rails. They even spray the part of the barrel that over hangs the bolt. I immediately called the gunsmith, because that isn't anything we talked about. They told me it was normally how they do it and SBE has enough variance and free play that it would hurt anything? I told them I was trilled about putting a rough surface on my rails and they told me they would fix it if there was any problems. They also told me it would wear off.

Two weeks ago I break out the gun for the first time and it breaks down in the first 10 rounds. Both screws holding the ejector plate was sheered off. I took the gun back and they told me they may have forgotten to use locktite? I told them I think the extra thickness of the Cerokote made the ejector plate stick out too far and the bolt didn't have the clearance needed? They told me they would remove the cerokote coat behind the ejector plate and put the gun back together. They supposedly shot a box of 3" steel and two 3 1/2" shells thru the gun with no issues....and then they charged me $16 for the shells, which I thought was BS.

So, I go hunting again last Friday and my gun stovepipes the 1st shell. The ejector is stuck and isn't moving. I go home and I try to clean the gun and I can't even remove the trigger assembly. I never tore the gun down since I picked it up in August. I'm assuming the stuff is to thick.....I can rock the trigger, but I can't pull it out.

What should I do when I take the gun back this week? I want them to sandblast the stuff off and remove everything from the inside. I'm sure that means they will have to redo the entire gun? Is this asking to much?

Is it normal to stray inside of a semi-automatic shotgun and have moving parts rubbing on it? I feel like I've totally screwed up a good gun.

Thanks for you input.

Shane Roberts

[VL221]

Yikes.......... What a headache..

[Akareddog]

Cerokote SBE Gone Wrong

Thanks for reviewing my first post and helping me out.

I'm an avid duck hunter and I recently decided to have my H & K Super Black Eagle cerakote. I took it to a local gunsmith and had them inspect the gun since it's had a lot of rounds thru the gun. This gun has never had any problems cycling. even at below zero temperatures. The gunsmith said the inside for the receiver looked like normal wear.

I picked up the gun in August from the gunsmith. When I got home I inspected the gun and I noticed they sprayed the inside of the receiver and including my rails. They even spray the part of the barrel that over hangs the bolt. I immediately called the gunsmith, because that isn't anything we talked about. They told me it was normally how they do it and SBE has enough variance and free play that it would hurt anything? I told them I was trilled about putting a rough surface on my rails and they told me they would fix it if there was any problems. They also told me it would wear off.

Two weeks ago I break out the gun for the first time and it breaks down in the first 10 rounds. Both screws holding the ejector plate was sheered off. I took the gun back and they told me they may have forgotten to use locktite? I told them I think the extra thickness of the Cerokote made the ejector plate stick out too far and the bolt didn't have the clearance needed? They told me they would remove the cerokote coat behind the ejector plate and put the gun back together. They supposedly shot a box of 3" steel and two 3 1/2" shells thru the gun with no issues....and then they charged me $16 for the shells, which I thought was BS.

So, I go hunting again last Friday and my gun stovepipes the 1st shell. The ejector is stuck and isn't moving. I go home and I try to clean the gun and I can't even remove the trigger assembly. I never tore the gun down since I picked it up in August. I'm assuming the stuff is to thick.....I can rock the trigger, but I can't pull it out.

What should I do when I take the gun back this week? I want them to sandblast the stuff off and remove everything from the inside. I'm sure that means they will have to redo the entire gun? Is this asking to much?

Is it normal to stray inside of a semi-automatic shotgun and have moving parts rubbing on it? I feel like I've totally screwed up a good gun.

Thanks for you input.

Shane Roberts

[essjay]

Is it normal to stray inside of a semi-automatic shotgun and have moving parts rubbing on it? I feel like I've totally screwed up a good gun.

I'm thinking not. I had a bicycle powder-coated years ago and I made sure that where the headset and bottom bracket bearings would be installed weren't coated, because it would make them more difficult to install. That bike definitely had less tight tolerances than a semi-auto shotgun.

[C.G.]

Might be normal in Ensenada or the long gone Earl Scheib, but otherwise no. You should post the name of the gunsmith, so that others may be made aware.

[SomeGuy75]

Earl Scheib is still around, and he'll cerakote any gun any color for only $99.95! No ups and no extras!

[shafferds]

Did the gunsmith do the work or was it sent out? There's a reason you don't cerakote the inside.

[compulsivegunbuyer]

The inside finish could be blasted off without damaging the outside with a little masking. Spraying the inside of the gun was a bonehead move in my opinion, and it's unlikely you are going to get satisfactory results taking it back to the same bonehead.

[FeuerFrei]

I'd give the shop a last chance to make it right.

Agree on what you expect as a result of the work done and make known the actions you'll take should they shyte the bed on this project again.

Sent using 2 cans and a long string.

[Akareddog]

I live in Nebraska and it's a local gunsmith here. I just called Cerakote and they told me you shouldn't do the inside of a gun with Titanium color it's extra porous.

They also told me they don't recommend doing the inside Semi-Automatic unless the customer asked for it. They said there was a smooth black that would have been a better choice.

Also not a trained dealer.

Thanks for all the input.

Shane

[PolishMike]

Everyone with a spray gun and an oven thinks they can cerakote. The coating itself isn't necessarily super hard but the prep is incredibly time consuming and takes great attending to detail.

[Junkie]

Everyone with a spray gun and an oven thinks they can cerakote. The coating itself isn't necessarily super hard but the prep is incredibly time consuming and takes great attending to detail.

Yeah, the finish on the Mag Tactical uppers I have is HORRIBLE. I don't remember if they're Cerakote or something similar though. Doesn't look like they did any real prep.