using emachineshop.com to make a receiver

[harmoniums]

Anybody ever done it?
I'd like to try a VZ58 receiver, they have all they tooling needed.
You just need to download their client software input the design and upload it for pricing

What would be the legal of making up a few receivers for my own builds (say <5)

[technique]

Anybody ever done it?
I'd like to try a VZ58 receiver, they have all they tooling needed.
You just need to download their client software input the design and upload it for pricing

What would be the legal of making up a few receivers for my own builds (say <5)

they are not a firearm manufacturer...have them make you an 80%. Otherwise to the best of my knowledge...I don't think they can make you a 100% receiver.

[JeffM]

Anybody ever done it?
I'd like to try a VZ58 receiver, they have all they tooling needed.
You just need to download their client software input the design and upload it for pricing

What would be the legal of making up a few receivers for my own builds (say <5)

You would need to be there to press the button on the CNC machine, or they'd need to be a 07 FFL or better.

[harmoniums]

So I could have them do everything but say open the magwell and I'd be OK?

[freakshow10mm]

There are several letters floating around with the ATF and the "80%" receiver. The term is an industry term and there isn't really a clear cut defined point at which a forging is now a firearm.

The ATF has made a ruling that the piece must have the fire control area solid.

I think it's a safe bet that if you had someone machine a forging so that you had to pocket out the FCG area and drill the holes in the side that it would be a "80%" receiver.

[hoffmang]

The very first modern style bullet button was made at emachineshop. As I recall they do have some checking for not accidentally manufacturing a firearm receiver (plus I bet it will be quite expensive actually.)

-Gene

[bbguns44]

Just have them make the side plates. Then you put it together.
I'll buy a couple plates if you do it.

[biscuitninja]

Not exactly a good idea. But you can. I'd make it in several parts.... but why? I'm sure most places could sell it to you MUCH cheaper than a LRIP (Low Rate Initial Production) lot. But just for kicks and grins, give it a shot, I bet you'll be VERY surpised that it is NOT cheap.


-bix

[SchooBaka]

My old landlord runs a machine shop up here, and my stepdad runs one in the bay area. I've often brought up the idea to the old landlord about milling some ak receivers. From what I've read in this thread, he would have to be an FFL to actually do it? If I did it myself using his machine shop, would I need to be an FFL to crank a few out for myself?

[hoffmang]

My old landlord runs a machine shop up here, and my stepdad runs one in the bay area. I've often brought up the idea to the old landlord about milling some ak receivers. From what I've read in this thread, he would have to be an FFL to actually do it? If I did it myself using his machine shop, would I need to be an FFL to crank a few out for myself?

One can only manufacture firearms for oneself without a license. You could use his shop if you did the work. He could use his shop if he kept the results.

-Gene

[SchooBaka]

One can only manufacture firearms for oneself without a license. You could use his shop if you did the work. He could use his shop if he kept the results.

-Gene

Thanks Gene.

[Salty]

The key to affordable machine work is quantity. The setup fee is the most expensive part of any order, and it stays the same no matter how many parts you buy. Instead of having just a single partial receiver made up you might as well have ten made up and sell the rest on here. That way you spread out the setup cost between ten parts.

I have designed parts before and gotten quotes back with price breakups looking like $200 for one, or $30 each for 120.
The breakups on injection molded parts are even more extreme. I've seen 2 cent parts that had $3000 worth of setup.

[hoffmang]

The first 5 bullet buttons were $100 a piece for manufacture only

-Gene