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  • AGGRO
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2793

    7.62 x 54r ammo buy

    Wanting to buy some Hornady or Winchester before the 1st. I'm wondering if they use .311 bullets? Anyone mic it? I can't find anywhere what Hornady is loading with or even if it's boxer primed. It does list steel case for Hornady.

    Just don't want to buy .308 diameter in a large quantity.
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    67Cuda
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 1718

    I never really put that much thought in to buying ammo to then measure them.
    If they sell you 7.62x54R and you get them and they look like 7.62x54R and the box is marked the same, I'd say your good to go.
    Winchester doesn't even state that information on their website.
    Originally posted by ivanimal
    People that call other member stupid get time off.
    So much for being honest.

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    • #3
      tuolumnejim
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2008
      • 11188

      Both Hornady and Winchester only offer one round in that caliber from each manufacturer and the bullet size is not listed, you might be able to use the "contact us" link and put that question to them.



      Winchester 7.62X54R 180 GR. METRIC CALIBERS
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      • #4
        God Bless America
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2014
        • 5165

        Winchester's used to be made by S&B, was boxer primed, I presume the bullet was 0.310".

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        • #5
          Flyin Brian
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Oct 2009
          • 3395

          I'd suggest going with PPU if you are looking for the "tried & true" solution. The Hornady would be great if it was brass cased, but since it is steel, no thanks. Winchester is decent stuff, and they actually offer 2 different loadings- SP and FMJ. I have some in the shop but I haven't shot it in years and do not recall what the bullet diameter was.

          You can get a 500 round case of PPU for 65 cents per round at SGAmmo.com and you will end up with usable brass cases that will last you quite a while. Don't bother going with the PPU match, as it is not worth the extra cost.
          NRA Life Member - CRPA Life Member - NRA Certified RSO - USN Veteran

          I collect Military Arms and enjoy shooting in local matches. I also collect older Lever Actions, especially those chambered in odd/old cartridges. If you have a nice old Winchester or Marlin in 25-20, 32-40, 38-55, 40-60, 45-70, etc etc, please PM me and we can work out a deal.

          Originally posted by TheExpertdouche
          I wasn't kidding when I said this would all be over by Xmas... Stay tuned for good news next week.

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          • #6
            AGGRO
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2793

            Originally posted by 67Cuda
            I never really put that much thought in to buying ammo to then measure them.
            If they sell you 7.62x54R and you get them and they look like 7.62x54R and the box is marked the same, I'd say your good to go.
            Winchester doesn't even state that information on their website.
            But is it .308 .310 or .311? That's the problem with that round. I've gotten some really accurate Hornady and never thought to mic it but now with these ridiculous laws coming I'm going to reload after shooting them once but want to match what they are using because I like the results. Eventually I'll slug the bore I just want to know what diameter the commercial guys use. I shot all that I had before the idea of these stupid laws even came up.

            Been shooting old hardball since but since the State won't let me sell the rifle by delisting it, it may be my new deer gun.
            Last edited by AGGRO; 10-17-2016, 6:03 PM.

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            • #7
              AGGRO
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2793

              Originally posted by tuolumnejim
              Both Hornady and Winchester only offer one round in that caliber from each manufacturer and the bullet size is not listed, you might be able to use the "contact us" link and put that question to them.



              Winchester 7.62X54R 180 GR. METRIC CALIBERS
              Originally posted by God Bless America
              Winchester's used to be made by S&B, was boxer primed, I presume the bullet was 0.310".
              Originally posted by Flyin Brian
              I'd suggest going with PPU if you are looking for the "tried & true" solution. The Hornady would be great if it was brass cased, but since it is steel, no thanks. Winchester is decent stuff, and they actually offer 2 different loadings- SP and FMJ. I have some in the shop but I haven't shot it in years and do not recall what the bullet diameter was.

              You can get a 500 round case of PPU for 65 cents per round at SGAmmo.com and you will end up with usable brass cases that will last you quite a while. Don't bother going with the PPU match, as it is not worth the extra cost.
              Here's the deal. I normally start off with what's on the IMR reloading data site but the only bullet they have data for is .308. I want to get the most out of the cartridge for accuracy and don't really want a .308 rattling down the barrel. I sent them an email. I'll share what I get. The hardball I have looks to be .308 which I thought odd but given they have to go with the smallest common denominator with what's out there all of the Mosins and other rifles. This is a PSL.
              Last edited by AGGRO; 10-17-2016, 5:10 PM.

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              • #8
                67Cuda
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 1718

                I have three boxes of PPU 7.62x54r.

                Took one out and put a micrometer to it, measured 0.3115
                Originally posted by ivanimal
                People that call other member stupid get time off.
                So much for being honest.

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                • #9
                  Flyin Brian
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3395

                  Originally posted by AGGRO
                  Here's the deal. I normally start off with what's on the IMR reloading data site but the only bullet they have data for is .308. I want to get the most out of the cartridge for accuracy and don't really want a .308 rattling down the barrel. I sent them an email. I'll share what I get. The hardball I have looks to be .308 which I thought odd but given they have to go with the smallest common denominator with what's out there all of the Mosins and other rifles. This is a PSL.
                  I've never really paid much attention to what size bullets they showed, as they don't show what the bore diameter was of the barrel they shot it from, so it really is of no help.

                  If you know the groove size of your barrel, use correctly matched projectiles and work up a load using whatever data you trust as a starting point.

                  If you don't have access to the quickload program, there are quite a few members here (including me) that would be willing to run your powder & bullet in QL so you can find a good starting point.

                  I've loaded a minimum of 100 rounds of 7.62x54r per month for the past 10+ years, so I've got some pretty good experience with this cartridge

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                  NRA Life Member - CRPA Life Member - NRA Certified RSO - USN Veteran

                  I collect Military Arms and enjoy shooting in local matches. I also collect older Lever Actions, especially those chambered in odd/old cartridges. If you have a nice old Winchester or Marlin in 25-20, 32-40, 38-55, 40-60, 45-70, etc etc, please PM me and we can work out a deal.

                  Originally posted by TheExpertdouche
                  I wasn't kidding when I said this would all be over by Xmas... Stay tuned for good news next week.

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                  • #10
                    hambam105
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7083

                    7.62x54R spam can ammo has been loaded with bullets of 0.311 diameter for about 50 years that I can tell. I have some 1950s Bulgarian 7.62X54R brass cased non magnetic ammo that shoots great.

                    .303 Brit and 765 Argentine = 0.311 bullet diameter since the Jurassic Era. By now you'd think the websiter builder people might get the 0.311 news.

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                    • #11
                      AGGRO
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2793

                      Ok, guy was nice enough to let me mic a box of ppu 150 grainers. Yep, .311 so I'm going to start a shipment of PPU as I like the brass. Then load with 46 grains of H4895 and ladder it up maybe a grain total as this old girl doesn't need to be hot. I've seen some notes of others shooting a Romak/PSL with that load.

                      Crazy you can buy the ammo for about the same price as the brass. Thanks for the input guys.

                      Talked to the guys at IMR and they said the "test rifle" they used for 7.62 x 54r slugged at .308 so that's why the data says .308 vs .311 but the load data for both would be the same. I'd think a .311 bullet in a .308 barrel would have much higher pressures. Really odd as I think it would be difficult to find a Mosin or Romak in .308 unless it's based on the winchester round. They also just sell some powders to some of the makers but apparently don't have any connection to charge weights etc which didn't surprise me. Nice guys.

                      Thoughts?
                      Last edited by AGGRO; 10-18-2016, 1:12 PM.

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