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  • meno377
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    • Jul 2013
    • 4911

    Bullet Buttons on Featureless Rifles

    In light of the new laws, if we were to make any rifles featureless, are we able to confirm that we are allowed to use standard magazine release buttons? I built a couple featureless rifles a couple of years ago and installed standard buttons, but I am not crystal clear on the upcoming year how it will play out.
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  • #2
    DMotivate
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 323

    Yes, if it is a featureless rifle with all the "evil" features removed then you can use the standard mag release.

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    • #3
      stevie
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3856

      I do not believe anyone truly knows what the laws pertaining to featureless will hold in the future. Currently you can use a standard button on a featureless rifle.
      Last edited by stevie; 10-11-2016, 4:39 AM.

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      • #4
        Junkie
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 4848

        There's one member here (ifilef) who thinks if it was ever a featured/BB'd gun then you'll have to register as an AW. Everyone else thinks that, as long as you convert to featureless by the end of this year, it's legal.
        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
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        • #5
          j15w
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 869

          Originally posted by Junkie
          There's one member here (ifilef) who thinks if it was ever a featured/BB'd gun then you'll have to register as an AW. Everyone else thinks that, as long as you convert to featureless by the end of this year, it's legal.
          How would they ever know it was a BBed firearm? In my case they wouldn't.
          It was just an old plywood boat, with a '75 Johnson, with electric choke. A young boy, two hands on the wheel, I can't replace the way it made me feel.

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          • #6
            Kowan
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2015
            • 1474

            It's legal now on a featureless. So my AR and MP10 are featureless and BB less.

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            • #7
              stix213
              AKA: Joe Censored
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              Originally posted by DMotivate
              Yes, if it is a featureless rifle with all the "evil" features removed then you can use the standard mag release.
              The letter of the law supports this ^^^ so it is the most likely outcome. The regulations are still on their way, so there is still opportunity for the state to try to pull something. No one can say with 100% certainty yet.

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              • #8
                Oceanbob
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2010
                • 12720

                A normal Rifle that has no Evil features does not require a bullet button.

                I can say this with certainty.

                Bob
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                Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                • #9
                  AceGirlsHusband
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2651

                  Featureless prohibitions will come under Governor Gavin. Get them while you can.

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                  • #10
                    Jimi Jah
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 18773

                    Whether these legal details reach the staff is debatable. The first thing a BLM agent asks me is "does that have a bullet button"?

                    I'm inclined to leave it on a featureless just to avoid LEO confusion.

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                    • #11
                      NapalmCheese
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5953

                      Originally posted by meno377
                      In light of the new laws, if we were to make any rifles featureless, are we able to confirm that we are allowed to use standard magazine release buttons? I built a couple featureless rifles a couple of years ago and installed standard buttons, but I am not crystal clear on the upcoming year how it will play out.
                      Any semi automatic centerfire rifle that doesn't have evil features can use detachable magazines.

                      An AR-15 that is built featureless is less of a 'purposely built AR-15 that gets to use detachable magazines' and more of a 'semi-automatic rifle that doesn't have evil features'. While the distinction is subtle I feel that reinforcing the idea that a featureless AR-15 is just another semi-automatic rifle similar to the Browning BAR, Remington 740 Woodsmaster, and Benelli R1 is important.
                      Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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                      • #12
                        Junkie
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 4848

                        Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                        Whether these legal details reach the staff is debatable. The first thing a BLM agent asks me is "does that have a bullet button"?

                        I'm inclined to leave it on a featureless just to avoid LEO confusion.
                        the one BLM ranger I've run into didn't know that featureless ARs were a thing, but we convinced him that they were. We couldn't convince him that using >10rd mags in non-BB'd guns was legal though (but we weren't using them when he showed up).
                        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                        A real live woman is more expensive than a fleshlight. Which would you rather have?

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                        • #13
                          onelonehorseman
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 4888

                          Originally posted by AceGirlsHusband
                          Featureless prohibitions will come under Governor Gavin. Get them while you can.
                          Very possibly. The next legislative session could see a new bill (or bills) designed to end featureless, and, post 2017, anyone who did not register will have missed the boat.

                          If only my crystal ball were a little more clear!
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                          • #14
                            onelonehorseman
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4888

                            Originally posted by Junkie
                            the one BLM ranger I've run into didn't know that featureless ARs were a thing, but we convinced him that they were. We couldn't convince him that using >10rd mags in non-BB'd guns was legal though (but we weren't using them when he showed up).
                            The ignorance of many LE is perpetually an issue on public property.
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                            • #15
                              Kowan
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 1474

                              Originally posted by onelonehorseman
                              Very possibly. The next legislative session could see a new bill (or bills) designed to end featureless, and, post 2017, anyone who did not register will have missed the boat.

                              If only my crystal ball were a little more clear!
                              BS. They will open registration for the M1A, M1 Garand, Mini 14, etc. that will be included in the non evil feature centerfire detachable mag group of rifles.

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