Every police shooting begins the same way

[Ron Swanson]

...with the suspect not following directions, regardless if the force used was warranted or not. It seems like that fact is always overlooked by the media and of course the suspect's family.

[stix213]

Yep

It doesn't mean when you don't follow instructions that an officer is right to just shoot you, but when you don't follow instructions you are upping the officer's stress level unnecessarily. Why would you want to purposely stress out someone who is pointing a gun at you?

[Mitch]

"Am I being detained? Am I free to --" BLAM BLAM BLAM!

[Felix168]

...with the suspect not following directions, regardless if the force used was warranted or not. It seems like that fact is always overlooked by the media and of course the suspect's family.

"Every"?

[edgerly779]

Substitute (OFTEN) what a lot of shooting victims have in common with 100,000 beaten women in the US is(THEY NEVER LISTEN) lol IS MAYBE NOT APPROPRIATE BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE CREATE THEIR OWN DESTINY.
In no way am I advocating beating or touching or otherwise abusing any woman child or otherwise unable to defend themselves persons.

[Ron Swanson]

"Every"?

Ok, fair enough, an example where you're right is the case of Tamir Rice where the officers pull up, jump out of the car and fire right away. But let's not forget the idiot 12-year old had a fake gun in his hand. Again, the suspect brought it on himself.

[ElvenSoul]

Obviously the PoPo need guns that shoot Happiness Rainbows and Glitter! Instead of squad cars and motorcycles we should issue them Unicorns to ride!

[DaveInOroValley]

Chris Rock had in right in his skit "How not to get your a** kicked by the police.

Available on YouTube, not something I would post here since it's fairly NSFW, but funny if you haven't seen it.

[ChuckDizzle]

I don't know about that, we're on track for 1000 people being killed by cops this year, that's not counting the ones who were shot and lived. It seems that odds would dictate that some of them have questionable justification on the use of force.

[nedro]

Ok, fair enough, an example where you're right is the case of Tamir Rice where the officers pull up, jump out of the car and fire right away. But let's not forget the idiot 12-year old had a fake gun in his hand. Again, the suspect brought it on himself.

I played with toy guns when I was a kid. You know, before red tips on fake guns.
BTW, they didn't wait to get out of the car, or even wait till the car stopped. He was shot and bleeding on the ground before they got out of their car.
This is the one single case BLM should be rallying against. But they only rally for criminals. It's the liberal agenda.

[SonofWWIIDI]

Substitute (OFTEN) what a lot of shooting victims have in common with 100,000 beaten women in the US is(THEY NEVER LISTEN) lol IS MAYBE NOT APPROPRIATE BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE CREATE THEIR OWN DESTINY.

[Bert Gamble]

Ok, fair enough, an example where you're right is the case of Tamir Rice where the officers pull up, jump out of the car and fire right away. But let's not forget the idiot 12-year old had a fake gun in his hand. Again, the suspect brought it on himself.

What about the health care worker trying to protect the mental patient he was caring for?? What about the kid who answered the door with the Wii remote?

What about the no-knock warrants at the wrong house, and the homeowner thinks it is a break in?? Well, it is actually a break in by highly trained intruders with immunity for your murder.

I am sure there are others, but I am nothing if not lazy.

[SamIAm]

Not EVERY police shooting.

The NYC stairwell police shooting was very different. The cop could justify having his gun out in a darkened stairwell where there was a high incidence of crime, but finger on the trigger? He didn't speak to the victim. The victim didn't know there was a cop. Heck, the cop didn't even see the victim when he shot because it was a ricochet from his accidentally pulling the trigger.

Of course, this is the one case that NYC decides to prosecute.

[MarikinaMan]

Yep

It doesn't mean when you don't follow instructions that an officer is right to just shoot you, but when you don't follow instructions you are upping the officer's stress level unnecessarily. Why would you want to purposely stress out someone who is pointing a gun at you?

Totally agree. Policemen are in the line of fire every single frikkin day. They are on the edge.

When I watch Active Self Protection on Youtube, raising your hands and doing something else is a ruse. Its to hide ones true intention, which in general is an armed response to a threat.

[nedro]

I agree that an armed response is necessary to combat an armed threat.
But in saying that, should we simply shoot first and ask the cop for ID later?