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  • norcal77
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    • Feb 2009
    • 4231

    Having to buy a lock with transfer

    I've noticed some shops make me buy one of those cheap red gun locks and others just do the safe affidavit, which I obviously prefer.

    Is having a gun lock a requirement when leaving store? What gets me is I'll bring the lock I bought a month ago to do transfer and they won't allow it unless I have the receipt that proves it was bought in the last 10 days? I'm starting to think this FFL is nickel and diming me for whatever they can shake me down for..
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    Garv the innocent
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    • Apr 2014
    • 9058

    Rifle s/b a safe affadavit.
    Handgun requires a lock per CA rules, but I thought it was 30 days.
    Originally posted by Kestryll:
    It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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    • #3
      HardwoodRods
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1093

      You have to have a receipt dated within the last 30 days to go with your lock. At 31 days the metal apparently fatigues and the lock becomes worthless, unless you are using it in your home..... Some dealers don't understand the safe affidavit and a lock is safer, in their opinion, related to DOJ inspections I would guess
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        Cndnmax
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        • Jan 2016
        • 136

        Note pad can edit saved webpages so that Amazon order can be any date... Lol

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        • #5
          Kwikvette
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          • Oct 2015
          • 3704

          What FFL is making you do this?

          I'd like to know who to avoid.
          Originally posted by longrange1
          my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
          Originally posted by XDJYo
          Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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          • #6
            norcal77
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            • Feb 2009
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            Originally posted by Garv
            Rifle s/b a safe affadavit.
            Handgun requires a lock per CA rules, but I thought it was 30 days.
            Thank you! It was a rifle I was transferring, an AK at that matter where the lock really doesn't work unless you remove the mag which is another can of worms , so rifles are just affidavit?
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              norcal77
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              • Feb 2009
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              Originally posted by Cndnmax
              Note pad can edit saved webpages so that Amazon order can be any date... Lol
              Oh really?
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              • #8
                norcal77
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                • Feb 2009
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                Originally posted by Kwikvette
                What FFL is making you do this?

                I'd like to know who to avoid.
                I'm not going to name them until I confirm what is supposed to happen, I have another transfer of another rifle coming up and I'll challenge them then. If they push their lame policy again I'll drop the name. They're usually pretty cool but I think the issue is w this newer employee
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                  Kwikvette
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                  • Oct 2015
                  • 3704

                  Originally posted by norcal77
                  I'm not going to name them until I confirm what is supposed to happen, I have another transfer of another rifle coming up and I'll challenge them then. If they push their lame policy again I'll drop the name.
                  No worries if it hasn't happened yet.

                  What about those in the past?

                  I'll go ahead and name one; 95% of the time Hunter Supply in Monterey has made buyers purchase a lock for a PPT. This happened for both rifles and handguns (I was the seller every time) in which the firearm always included the factory lock.

                  The 1 time when a lock purchase wasn't necessary was when I was the buyer oddly enough
                  Originally posted by longrange1
                  my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                  Originally posted by XDJYo
                  Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                  • #10
                    Garv the innocent
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    Originally posted by norcal77
                    Thank you! It was a rifle I was transferring, an AK at that matter where the lock really doesn't work unless you remove the mag which is another can of worms , so rifles are just affidavit?
                    I did a PPT for a lever gun and transferred it at Ammo bros Cerritos, then another at Turners Torrance, no issues.
                    Safe affadavit is ok with the Feds., but not CA for handgun.
                    Librarian should be here soon to validate.
                    Then he will say "asked and answered" and close the thread.
                    Last edited by Garv; 09-09-2016, 10:57 PM.
                    Originally posted by Kestryll:
                    It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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                    • #11
                      Cndnmax
                      Member
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 136

                      Originally posted by norcal77
                      Oh really?
                      Just don't forget about the "shipped on" and "charged on" dates, they might look at you weird if you ordered it after it had already shipped.

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                      • #12
                        norcal77
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 4231

                        Originally posted by Kwikvette
                        No worries if it hasn't happened yet.

                        What about those in the past?

                        I'll go ahead and name one; 95% of the time Hunter Supply in Monterey has made buyers purchase a lock for a PPT. This happened for both rifles and handguns (I was the seller every time) in which the firearm always included the factory lock.

                        The 1 time when a lock purchase wasn't necessary was when I was the buyer oddly enough
                        This has happened once so far at this FFL but I've experienced this in the past at other FFLs, it just sucks because I have like 9 of these things and I never really looked into what the law was. I think what you're inferring in your closing statement confirms what I suspected, I was screwed outta 8 bucks.
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                        • #13
                          Kwikvette
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                          • Oct 2015
                          • 3704

                          Originally posted by norcal77
                          This has happened once so far at this FFL but I've experienced this in the past at other FFLs, it just sucks because I have like 9 of these things and I never really looked into what the law was. I think what you're inferring in your closing statement confirms what I suspected, I was screwed outta 8 bucks.
                          Sounds like it.

                          And to add insult to injury, my purchase had also been a PPT.

                          Other FFL's I've been to have never required the purchase of their own lock. I've been able to use my own lock and a safe affidavit.
                          Originally posted by longrange1
                          my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                          Originally posted by XDJYo
                          Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                          • #14
                            californiagal
                            Member
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 327

                            For handguns, I always bring my Hornady tripoint lockbox and everyone accepts it.

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
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                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19795

                              Don't new guns come with a lock from the manufacturer?

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