Need Advice Please

[MaliStaff]

Greetings Fellow CG'ers. I performed multiple searches, but came up empty. I could really use some advice and guidance on the following situation:

My FIL whom happens to own multiple pistols and a rifle recently had a stroke and now is hospitalized and his condition is actually getting worse. Can't say at this time what his recovery will look like. Conceptually if he is unable to operate and maintain his firearms going forward due to drastic change with his health, what options do I have with respect to his firearms? I'll be honest: I don't know what the status of registration is on all his firearms. If, due to his change in health, can no longer legally own a firearm, can it be transferred to me somehow?

Thanks in advance for the help.

[bsim]

Dad to wife to you.

Only way unless it's in a wll...

[Garv]

If he becomes healthy enough to go to the gun store with you at some point hopefully soon he can just DROS them to you.
Would he be willing to do that?

Having a stroke or poor health in general does not prohibit someone from owning firearms.

[The Gleam]

You need to advise:

1) Is he a CA resident?

2) Are any of his guns RAW in CA?

3) Is he cognitive/coherent enough to work with you on a PPT transfer? An FFL could visit him in the hospital with you to do the 4473/DROS transfer paperwork. (Not sure that the guns actually have to be present at the hospital to do that if the FFL had them at their store no different than doing a consignment sale? May want to ask in the FFL section)

4) For the above; does he have current ID/Drivers' License?

5) Does he have a will?

6) Is he able to give the guns to your wife (or husband?)

7) Is said wife (or husband?) a prohibited person?

[MaliStaff]

Dad to wife to you.

Only way unless it's in a wll...

How exactly would the transfer process differ if he transferred it to my wife, versus transferring it directly to me? I believe he will be establishing his will in the very near future.

[MaliStaff]

If he becomes healthy enough to go to the gun store with you at some point hopefully soon he can just DROS them to you.
Would he be willing to do that?

Having a stroke or poor health in general does not prohibit someone from owning firearms.

It's gotten really bad for him to the point where he's bed ridden, he can't walk, and barely coherent. I don't think he's in able condition to accompany me to an FFL.

[The Gleam]

How exactly would the transfer process differ if he transferred it to my wife, versus transferring it directly to me? I believe he will be establishing his will in the very near future.

He can simply gift the guns to his daughter and self-complete a form off the DOJ/BOF website and mail it to the DOJ/BOF. No FFL needed. Here:

Form BOF 4544A - Note there are 2 types:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/oplaw.pdf

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...orms/oplaw.pdf

To transfer them to you, it has to go through and FFL by PPT or Consignment. The consignment plan, if an FFL is willing to get out from behind the counter and out of the shop to do some footwork on your behalf, sounds like the better option if the Father to Daughter intra-familial transfer is not possible for some odd reason.

[MaliStaff]

You need to advise:

1) Is he a CA resident? Yes

2) Are any of his guns RAW in CA? No

3) Is he cognitive/coherent enough to work with you on a PPT transfer? An FFL could visit him in the hospital with you to do the 4473/DROS transfer paperwork. (Not sure that the guns actually have to be present at the hospital to do that if the FFL had them at their store no different than doing a consignment sale? May want to ask in the FFL section) - This sounds like a possibility..

4) For the above; does he have current ID/Drivers' License? Yes

5) Does he have a will? Currently in the making.

6) Is he able to give the guns to your wife (or husband?) Sure, I'm sure he could give them to my wife.

7) Is said wife (or husband?) a prohibited person?

my wife is not a prohibited person.

[The Gleam]

my wife is not a prohibited person.

OK - See my post above yours, along with links to the PDF of the the forms you need. Simple. No FFL needed, pending they aren't RAW items, and he's a CA resident/citizen.

You now have your best answer on how to go about this. That'll be $19.00.... not to me, to the Bureau of Fops.

[MaliStaff]

OK - See my post above yours, along with links to the PDF of the the forms you need. Simple. No FFL needed, pending they aren't RAW items, and he's a CA resident/citizen.

You now have your best answer on how to go about this.

Thanks Gleam - I appreciate all your help. I will proceed as such.

[whatmeworry]

I think wife will need a firearm safety certificate (FSA).

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/hscsg.pdf

[newbie1234]

Do it before he kicks the bucket. Gift to your wife (intra-family transfer)
I MIL pass away, and she had couple hundred at Bank of America checking account, my wife try to close that account and almost a year now and still in the process, the BofA ask for many kind of papers that we don't have or we need the layer. I think give will give it up so the BofA can "EAT" that couple hundred buck.

[MaliStaff]

I think wife will need a firearm safety certificate (FSA).

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...orms/hscsg.pdf

Yeah, I figure she would, given she'll be taking ownership via transfer. Thanks for the link.

[Mitch]

I'll second the n00b's point: Do what you can to make this happen before he dies. Using the OpLaw form it's so easy, your father in law doesn't even have to get out of bed. It is far simpler to deal with these things while he is still alive.

Hopefully he will recover, and if he does he will continue to have access to his firearms through his daughter. But if anything happens to him suddenly, this is one less thing you have to worry about.