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  • Calico1404
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 3401

    Stress Brief on Firearm operation.

    During recent educational training through my employment I was able to get hands on experience with high stress or stress induced operation.

    Without going into a long story... ha!

    Learning about the Sympathetic Nervous system (SNS) *Fight or Flight

    Within 150 milliseconds when startled or surprised the human body reacts in 4 major ways.

    1. Eyes Dilate, if combined with a drastic increase of blood flow you can loose up to 70% of your peripheral vision, almost experiencing tunnel vision.

    2. Your upper torso and head "jumps forward."

    3. Your arms bend at the elbow.

    4. Your hands automatically begin to tighten into a fist.



    Number 1 and number 4 were constant struggles for some of the individuals involved.

    #4 If Adrenalin is introduced by this scenario then the persons fist will literally start to ball up (within 150 milliseconds) and can create a contraction force of up to 25 pounds of pressure, this is almost twice as what it takes to discharge a double action revolver.


    This is a real thing, imagine sweeping your house, your trigger control is great, however you are in active ready and finger is on the trigger. You turn the corner to see/hear something that surprises you, it is amazing how many people do not pull the trigger, but squeeze the trigger out of reaction.

    This drill was both informative and a bit scary to see what reactions our bodies have to instant stress induction or basically what happens when you get the 5*&^ scared out of you and what your initial response is.

  • #2
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19594

    There were 4 stages of Competence...
    When you wake up and realize that you need training... is an important discovery.....


    Many choose to always stay ignorant...

    They feel they can race a car without taking instruction...
    They feel they can win a gunfight or IDPA without training...
    They feel they could out box Mike Tyson in 1988....

    They never wake up on the body's physical reaction to stress...



    A Teamster I knew added the 5th- II


    Intentionally Incompetent...

    They choose to stay ignorant...



    So what class did your employer offer???
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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    • #3
      berg
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1963

      This also comes into play when people have a flashlight in one hand and a pistol in another. Especially if the flashlight has a tailcap switch. Under stress the brain may signal both hands to clench instead of the one holding the flashlight.
      __________________________________________________ _____________________________________
      The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, and wiser people are full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell

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      • #4
        Calico1404
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 3401

        A simple class with a few small groups. Non public, but I am sure there are some public classes out there that offer something close.

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        • #5
          Calico1404
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 3401

          Originally posted by berg
          This also comes into play when people have a flashlight in one hand and a pistol in another. Especially if the flashlight has a tailcap switch. Under stress the brain may signal both hands to clench instead of the one holding the flashlight.


          INTERLIMB INTERACTION. Yes we were able to experience this as well.

          One hand being told to act, the body sending the signal so fast that both hands follow the directive.


          Situation:

          Armed suspect, you direct suspect to the prone position with your weak hand while you have your weapon ready in your strong. The suspect makes sudden movement and with your weak hand you try to push the suspect away or defensively react, the strong hand also takes this direction, sometimes leading to accidental discharge.

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          • #6
            MrOrange
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 2262

            That's why I don't keep my trigger finger straight out and my thumb over the safety.

            When shocked, or wrestling with an attacker, or if anything else happens to cause you to suddenly clench your fist, the thumb safety will be swept off and the trigger will be pulled. The Ayoob Files covered an incident where a cop accidentally blew a suspect's jaw off when that happened in a struggle.

            Following his advice, I curl my trigger finger and place the tip against the frame behind the slide stop end. I also keep my thumb up against the bottom of the thumb safety ledge; I can ride my thumb over the top and snap it off in an instant. BTW you can inadvertently push the stop out of battery with your finger straight out even if you're not pumped up. When the gun is fired the stop will likely rotate down. It won't keep the gun from firing, but it complicates reloads. 1911 problems!

            Also, maybe it's already too obvious to everybody, but with the high stress/adrenaline situation your fine motor skills go out the window as well. Which is why I like the Stressfire revolver reload.
            I meant, it is my opinion that...






            I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
            I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
            You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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            • #7
              AceGirlsHusband
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 2651

              Some people get a spontaneous erection, too, and do an emergency urine jettison. (Just an aside).

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              • #8
                Calico1404
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2016
                • 3401

                wow lol

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