First Rule violation....

[7x57]

I used to think the "first rule of gunfighting" was just humor of the "state the obvious" variety. I didn't realize that some people actually need the first rule stated to help them avoid situations like this:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6219604.html

I suppose this is going to feed another round of "handgun stopping power" threads too. But what about the burning unaddressed question of "arrow stopping power?"

7x57

[eighteenninetytwo]

And the question which will never be addressed by the media is of course. How many people could she have put an arrow in without the Concealed carry folks.

[Greg-Dawg]

Don't bring a bow and arrow to a gun fight.

[USN CHIEF]

Good job to the CCW holders. At least they were able to neutralize the threat. and even though the girl did not die, they prevented her from hurting additional innocent people.

[shmeare]

+1...

Good job to the CCW holders. At least they were able to neutralize the threat. and even though the girl did not die, they prevented her from hurting additional innocent people.

[Bruce3]

CCW saves the day!

[N6ATF]

WTF...

[JDay]

Don't bring a bow and arrow to a gun fight.

Someone forgot to tell that to Rambo.

[pnkssbtz]

BTW, the 2 CCW holders in that incident are members of Arfcom and posted about the incident.

Can't find the thread, but here is a cut & paste from a copy on another site:

Okay, from the top: In my office when I hear my boss SCREAMING something. I run out to the reception area (RA) and see him with a small 380 drawing a bead on some chick with a COMPOUND BOW - and I see my friend standing with a ****ing arrow IN HIS CHEST. Boss has the gal covered so I drag my friend into his office to get him out of the line of fire should she draw again.

I RUN out of his office, thru a side exit and retrieve my HK from my vehicle. Woman now in conference room (CR) in the front of the building. I position myself outside in the parking lot on a vehicle to watch her hunkered down in the CR. I can see her clearly, boss now cannot see her as there is a wall blocking his view.

My intent is to keep he in that CR so she doesn't get to anyone else.

A few minutes go by and she sees my employees exiting the building through an alternate exit going across the parking lot. She stands up and points a SA pistol at them (first time I saw a pistol) so I double tap 2 rounds right over her head to drop her down again in the corner of the CR. She drops.

Several minutes later she hears something in the RA, where boss is with his 380, and she stands up again and points the gun at the wall as if she's about to shoot through the wall (potentially at boss or our man down and 2 employees that are tending to him.

I shoot again a gnats *** over her head and she drops again. Now before you guys hammer me for not tapping her CM (which I could have as I shoot regularly), I learned when I was dragging my friend away that this woman is the daughter of one of our engineers. She has severe mental issues. My goal again was to keep her in that CR until HPD arrived.

That didn't happen.

A few minutes later she charges out of the CR and my boss unloads his 380 on her (6 rounds). I flank the vehicle I'm behind and take bead to the front door. I see her down on the floor, some blood under her. I enter with my weapon covering her every second and verify that the pistol had been dropped and was a good 15 feet from her.

I try to apply compresses to her wounds (one knee and one upper chest near shoulder). She's freaking out screaming that I work for the devil and I'm a coward for not killing her. I back off and then saw something that I didn't ****ing expect.

She got up, grabbed her bow and went back into the CR! Remember that boss is out of ammo as his 380 is a little bitty bug. I retreat to the entryway of my friend's office where he is down, arrow in chest, (with 2 other employees), knelt, and drew a defensive hard sight bead on that CR door with my finger on the trigger.

I told her that if she came out of that room I would shoot her before she got a single step. Must have taken HPD 25 minutes to arrive and enter but they finally entered and shot her several times (not sure how many actual hits).

Found out that friend is going to be okay as the arrow went all the way across his chest but was not deep with respect to the front of his body. Not sure if the arrow clipped lungs or not. Will see him tomorrow.

****.

Not your average day at the office.

[N6ATF]

The ARFcom thread was removed. It was in the Hometown Texas forum.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=8&t=341905&page=3

Cached!

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:TshsRtXHBMkJ:www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html%3Fb%3D8%26f%3D8%26t%3D341905%26page%3D3+site:ar15.com+compound+bow&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us&client=safari

25 minutes for PD to arrive. Freaking BRILLIANT!

[nooner]

Holy guacamole batman. That's brutal!

[pnkssbtz]

TWENTY FIVE MINUTES! Shots fired with a person down even. What were they doing, using donuts as suppositories?

[JDay]

TWENTY FIVE MINUTES! Shots fired with a person down even. What were they doing, using donuts as suppositories?

They probably had to pickup crime scene tape and film for their cameras. Remember, the police are highly trained at securing a crime scene and taking statements.

[rcp916]

I hope they got the rest of the day off with pay.

[rabagley]

Now, I always thought that the first three rules of gunfighting were:

1) Don't be in a gunfight.
2) If you have to be in a gunfight, bring a gun.
3) Bring enough gun.

Seems like she completely dropped the ball on all of those... Also, I do have some respect for little capguns. At least he had it with him. If you have to choose, better to violate #3 than #2. The .380 in your pocket is better than the 1911 sitting at home in the safe.