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  • #16
    ChuckDizzle
    Banned
    • Dec 2013
    • 4398

    Originally posted by Merc1138
    "our owners"? What? Of course I don't support these laws, who the hell would other than a liberal? And even though I don't support such laws, they already exist. Me choosing not to support those laws doesn't change that fact.
    Yeah the rich people who make up the rules for the rest of us to follow. Our owners.

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    • #17
      Merc1138
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19742

      Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
      Yeah the rich people who make up the rules for the rest of us to follow. Our owners.
      Go home, you're drunk.

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      • #18
        Dutch3
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2010
        • 14181

        Originally posted by IVC
        This comes up all the time - we don't want *mandates*.

        A simple litmus test is whether the developers of technology go to SHOT show to push their wares or to Sacramento for photo-ops with the anti-gun politicians. Similarly, whether the profit motive is free market demand, or regulatory scheme based "demand."

        Case in question: Belinda Padilla, the CEO of Armatix.
        Hell, Belinda even went to the the UN to push the Armatix angle.
        Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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        • #19
          ChuckDizzle
          Banned
          • Dec 2013
          • 4398

          Originally posted by Merc1138
          Go home, you're drunk.
          Lighten up Francis.

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          • #20
            matt_b
            Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 131

            That is Pretty neat.
            Discogodfather, I think the concept for something like this is to build a firearm from the ground up, involving a Rfdi activated push buttons or slides so that only the owner can break down the gun only.

            I mean I would be laughing my culo off if I saw something like this in a mil spec ar lower.

            it has some benefits I could see as far as use goes.
            <a firearm you could just reach for and grab for home defense, without having to fumble with a lockbox.or the classic kids found the firearm senario.>

            but the down side is that, it's still too primitive to rely you life on something like this.
            yes, I understand it's a proof of concept. but so was microstamping and that teenager that kickstarted that fingerprint reader thing for a gun. But, once they realize that the people that want this is little to none. They can't advance on the technology or don't want to, because it's not the money maker they thought it was.

            Its scary that he is not a "gun guy." cause he will be pleading and showing the state, "the future of guns" and trying to pass laws to make it the new standard.F**k You micro-stamping!


            listen, I am all for smart guns and what they have to bring to the table, as long as I still have the option not to pick one up and not forced to get one by a BS law.

            this is Armatix all over again. but instead of a $400 watch, it's an implant.
            and hell what if you have more than one gun.... will you have to get more implants??? no probably not.
            Not gonna lie, the iP1 is a sexy looking gun, but the price,and caliber were a compete turn off.

            and the kicker for all those that are still reading this.
            RFID's run around 13.56 MHZ
            A RF jammer can drop white noise between 0-128MHZ
            I mean Not your everyday criminal runs around a jammer but you can see were I am going with this.
            Although you may disagree with what I say. We both know damn well you will defend my right to say it.
            ____________________________________________
            FREEDOM

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            • #21
              xxINKxx
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 4289

              So now the bad guy will steal your gun, chop off your hand to use said gun...
              "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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              • #22
                MrOrange
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 2262

                Smart guns are one thing, but I don't know how many people other than hardcore geeks would want an RFID implant.

                I had a Magna-Trigger gun, until I sold it recently when I needed the money. It worked fine, but it's limited to revolvers, and unfortunately doesn't meet The State's definition of a smart gun anyway. There have been similar magnet set-ups for autos, but none with any kind of track record that I'm aware of.


                Originally posted by xxINKxx
                So now the bad guy will steal your gun, chop off your hand to use said gun...
                Whether the thief takes it off you or burgles it, I doubt he (or she!) is going to try the gun, find it doesn't work, then think "Oh, it must have an RFID reader." They might try to fix it, or more likely just sell it off to some chump.
                I meant, it is my opinion that...






                I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
                I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
                You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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                • #23
                  Discogodfather
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 5516

                  Originally posted by MrOrange
                  Smart guns are one thing, but I don't know how many people other than hardcore geeks would want an RFID implant.
                  I agree. My dog has an RFID implant, I don't want one. Who would take that option over a bracelet?

                  I'd like to see more innovation in firearms and electronics brought in, I think it's cool stuff. But the only "momentum" for this is tech people who "aren't gun people" looking to satisfy a movement that has no idea how guns are used is unsettling.

                  Someone will see this video and end up giving this guy funding to develop the idea, which I think is lame. That's how the game works. I would want a product developed by someone not afraid to identify with gun culture and people and one who actually used guns.
                  Originally posted by doggie
                  Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                  Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                  Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                  "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                  • #24
                    IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17594

                    Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                    Several police officers are killed each year with their own side arms. Retention techniques only do so much and the risk for your gun to be taken from you in a fight is always there.
                    Smart gun doesn't help in those scenarios - if the attacker is on top of you and has your gun he'll do what Martin tried to do to Zimmerman. Besides, the gun will remain activated in such close proximity.

                    If it was a viable solution police would be embracing this technology. They aren't.
                    sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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