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  • AnonUser
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2015
    • 72

    Defending Property/Animals

    If this has been discussed before, please point me in the right direction. I did search, but I didn't find what I was looking for.

    Also, I know the best advice would be from a lawyer, but I'm sure there's some online content that will easily answer my question (of course, I couldn't find it with google).

    Lastly, I've tried to remain anonymous, but I will be giving specific info, so I'll try to keep it generic.

    I live on 6 acres of property in the Los Angeles county. The property isn't zoned for agriculture. I'm surrounded by housing tracts but have a few acres between me and the housing tracts.

    I own some horse and random animals (rabbits, ducks, goats, ...).

    My property buts up against a hill side (that is part of my 6 acres) with coyotes and a mountain lion roaming free.

    Last night, something (coyote or bobcat) hopped our fence and made off with a duck.

    Should I have been awake and had a clear shot at the attacking coyote, am I able to shoot it?

    My thinking is, of course I'm able to. I'm defending my property. Although, I am discharging a fire arm with in Los Angeles County and around houses.
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44653

    LA County Ordinances
    13.66.040 - Discharging firearms—Restrictions generally.

    A person shall not shoot, fire or discharge,

    and a person, firm or corporation shall not cause or permit to be shot, fired or discharged,

    any rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm
    in the general direction of any house, camp or place of human habitation,

    or in the general direction of any public highway, road, street, way, park or premises,

    unless the place from which such rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm is shot, fired or discharged is at least one-half mile distant from such house, camp or place of human habitation, or is at least one-half mile distant from that portion of such public highway, road, street, way, park or premises toward which such rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm is shot, fired or discharged.

    The exception in Section 13.66.010 to destroying or killing any predatory or dangerous animal does not apply to this section.
    and So, it seems that it would be OK if and only if the direction of shooting had a half-mile clearance.

    What they do if you might shoot a mountain lion dragging off a child, I dunno.
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      steelholder
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 3328

      Originally posted by AnonUser
      If this has been discussed before, please point me in the right direction. I did search, but I didn't find what I was looking for.

      Also, I know the best advice would be from a lawyer, but I'm sure there's some online content that will easily answer my question (of course, I couldn't find it with google).

      Lastly, I've tried to remain anonymous, but I will be giving specific info, so I'll try to keep it generic.

      I live on 6 acres of property in the Los Angeles county. The property isn't zoned for agriculture. I'm surrounded by housing tracts but have a few acres between me and the housing tracts.

      I own some horse and random animals (rabbits, ducks, goats, ...).

      My property buts up against a hill side (that is part of my 6 acres) with coyotes and a mountain lion roaming free.

      Last night, something (coyote or bobcat) hopped our fence and made off with a duck.

      Should I have been awake and had a clear shot at the attacking coyote, am I able to shoot it?

      My thinking is, of course I'm able to. I'm defending my property. Although, I am discharging a fire arm with in Los Angeles County and around houses.
      Hmm LA county 6 acres, wonder where that is but youll more than likely have to explain it all to an leo given your location.
      WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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      • #4
        Urban Achiever
        Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 244

        Bow and a shovel or a higher fence.

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        • #5
          Michael777
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2016
          • 894

          .22

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          • #6
            smle-man
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2007
            • 10584

            Wrist-rocket?

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            • #7
              GW
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2004
              • 16078

              Get a crossbow
              sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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              • #8
                SonofWWIIDI
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2011
                • 21583

                S.S.S.
                Sorry, not sorry.
                🎺

                Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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                • #9
                  ScottsBad
                  Progressives Suck!
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • May 2009
                  • 5610

                  Don't ask me how I know, but I've heard that a pistol caliber carbine like 9mm or perhaps a .45 shot from a point where the muzzle is back inside a building is a whole lot quieter than one shot outside. And subsonic ammunition might even be quieter still. Gee it might even work from a large insulated shed, like a giant silencer...
                  Last edited by ScottsBad; 08-05-2016, 11:38 PM.
                  sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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                  • #10
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                    8886
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1730

                    If its an air gun your going to want to go bigger than .25 cal. Just saying. This looks nice for $800... Benjamin Bulldog 357! Big Bore Air Rifle.

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                    • #12
                      edgerly779
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 19871

                      Under contact depradation law you can use force to protect livestock. Contact dfw for correct procedure now before it happens again there is a post about this now in hunting fishing forum. (SHOOTING PIGS AT NIGHT)
                      Last edited by edgerly779; 08-06-2016, 4:25 AM.

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                      • #13
                        Kokopelli
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 3389

                        ... and be sure you have a valid CA hunting license.
                        If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth. - Ronald Reagan

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                        • #14
                          edgerly779
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 19871

                          ^^^ Not for depradation permit or contact law for landowner.

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                          • #15
                            FrankMo
                            Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 360

                            EVen California says it's OK

                            CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
                            ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS


                            SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have
                            inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and
                            liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing
                            and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.
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                            FrankMO

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