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  • Kyle1886
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 3925

    Question about muzzle compensators and noise.

    I am aware of the difference between "linear" compensators and the conventional type as far as noise direction. Recoil is not a concern.

    With noise / concussion the major considerations for shooter and bystanders, would a bare thread protecter be less offensive than a conventional brake? ( I have a LMT YHM brake (new unopened) but understand they are a bit loud).

    Which will be less offensive noise wise, the LMT YHM brake or the thread protecter? There should be no accuracy impact with the thread protecter versus other muzzle devices, correct?

    I also assume that the thread protecter is acceptable for a featureless configuration? (Flow Chart does not mention thread protectors).

    Respectfully
    Kyle
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    CouchOperator
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    • May 2016
    • 4353

    LMT makes muzzle brakes? Pics?

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      radicalray
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      • Dec 2012
      • 450

      Here's a good review links to part 2 and videos talks about concussion noise

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        Kyle1886
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        • Dec 2009
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        Originally posted by CouchOperator
        LMT makes muzzle brakes? Pics?
        Dah--sorry it's a YHM. Sorry for the mistake.

        Kyle
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          Kyle1886
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          • Dec 2009
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          Thanks for the link. I could notwatch all the video but appeared to be mostly on recoil. Good info on brakes though.

          Originally posted by radicalray
          Here's a good review links to part 2 and videos talks about concussion noise

          http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...vice-shootout/
          Last edited by Kyle1886; 07-12-2016, 9:15 AM.
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            Kyle1886
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            • Dec 2009
            • 3925

            I also found the link below that some may find somewhat informative on brakes and sound.

            I thought about these muzzle brake tests for over a year before I started this field test. We all know one of the biggest downsides of a muzzle brake is how loud they are. If you’ve shot more than a couple of these, you know some are much louder than others. So I naturally wanted ...


            If I read the charts correctly; if recoil is not an issue but sound is, a bare muzzle is not as loud to the shooter or bystanders.

            Is there any down side to using a thread protector instead of brake as long as you have the over all length required?

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            Kyle
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              Jimi Jah
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              • Jan 2014
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              That was a good test with the proper B+K test rig and mics done at the correct positions.

              However, it only tested brakes, not compensators. Everyone with hearing knows a brake will increase the SPL's. Some compensators do reduce it.

              A test of those would show what real world results have, the linear compensators can lower the SPL's at the shooter's position by re-direction.

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              • #8
                kevins750
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 1376

                I have a brake on my 223 and it is painfull to everyone including the shooter.

                On my x39 I have this funky thing referred to as a "sound forwarder"
                basically just a threaded 3" empty pipe, but it works very well for calming
                the blast..
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                  Kyle1886
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                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3925

                  Yeah, I'm familiar with the linear comps but I think I'll run with just the thread protector. That, I already have and I know the Yankee Hill brake fairly is loud.

                  My hearing is already more than half gone. Just as soon not inflict that situation on others around me. I've already needlessly spent too much trying to please the politicos in this state

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                    NapalmCheese
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                    • Feb 2011
                    • 5953

                    Originally posted by Kyle1886
                    Which will be less offensive noise wise, the LMT YHM brake or the thread protecter? There should be no accuracy impact with the thread protecter versus other muzzle devices, correct?
                    It is my unfounded opinion that if the overall length of the barrel is the same there won't be a bit of difference to the shooter or bystanders between using a linear compensator or a thread protector (or bare muzzle).

                    That is, if the length of the barrel with a thread protector is 20 inches, and if the length of a barrel with whatever linear compensator is 20 inches overall (including the compensator) I don't think there would be one lick of difference. It is my opinion that linear compensators only serve to add weight and length to a rifle, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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                    • #11
                      Kyle1886
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                      • Dec 2009
                      • 3925

                      NapalmC, that's sort of my reasoning. I'm not trying to tame recoil. As far overall rifle length I'll lose about 1 7/8 inches removing the flash suppressor/crush washer but that still leaves me at 34 inches over all length with a pinned stock.

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                      Kyle
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                      • #12
                        hunterb
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                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3796

                        Just double up on ear pro.
                        Originally posted by johnthomas
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                        • #13
                          fritztkatt
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 1061

                          Originally posted by hunterb
                          Just double up on ear pro.
                          You should anyway, but I can think of plenty of reasons why I'd be more than willing to shoot without ear pro.

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                          • #14
                            HighWildFree
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                            • Dec 2011
                            • 2103

                            Not trying to be rude, but I believe you're thinking to hard about this. Guns are loud, people at the range expect that. Get what best serves you and your needs, stop tailoring to others.
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                              Kyle1886
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 3925

                              Originally posted by hunterb
                              Just double up on ear pro.
                              I've always doubled up when practical, but that doesn't abate the concussive blast caused by some brakes/comps to shooters on either side of me at a range.

                              I'd hate to dissuade some new shooter because of something I do that can be minimized.

                              Respectfully
                              Kyle
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