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  • ABR
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 1167

    Ammo Stacking

    How high are you guys stacking your 230g ammo cases? Right now I'm stacking in rows of 5 high. That's 200lbs sitting atop the bottom cases..
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    Calico1404
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 3401

    You know silly thing but I never gave this much thought....
    Standing by for input-

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    • #3
      cannon
      In Memoriam
      • Aug 2008
      • 8589

      Judging by the pictures I've seen of ammo warehouses. Not a problem.
      ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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      • #4
        QuarterBoreGunner
        Administrator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 9389

        For future reference if you're curious:

        Bulk Ammo Weight

        Pistol Calibers

        .380
        Rounds per pound: 47.06
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.13

        9mm Luger
        Hornady 115gr JHP/XTP
        Rounds per pound: 38.10
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.63

        .38 Special

        Rounds per pound: 34.78
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.88

        .357Mag.
        Remington UMC 125gr SJHP
        Rounds per pound: 30.77
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 3.25

        .357Mag.
        Handload 158gr JHP
        Rounds per pound: 28.07
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 3.56

        40S&W
        Rounds per pound: 28.07
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 3.56

        .44magnum
        200gr Hornady XTP HP
        Rounds per pound: 22
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.57

        .44magnum
        240gr LSWC Bullet
        Rounds per pound: 19.7
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 5.07

        .45ACP

        230gr Winchester Ball
        Rounds per pound: 21.33
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.69





        Rifle Calibers


        .22 LR
        Remington Golden 36gr PHP
        Rounds per pound: 133.33
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 0.75

        .223/5.56X45
        (milsurp) British Radway Green SS109 63gr
        Rounds per pound: 37.21
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 2.69

        NOTE: 420 rounds XM193 55gr on stripper clips in a standard .30 ammo can
        Weight (lbs): 15


        30-30 Winchester (a.k.a. .30WCF)
        Winchester Silvertip 170gr flat nose
        Rounds per pound: 20.28
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.92

        .243 Winchester
        75gr Hornady V-max Handloads
        Rounds per pound: 22.22
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 4.5

        .308 Winchester
        Remington UMC 150gr FMJ
        Rounds per pound: 19.05
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 5.25

        .308 Winchester
        168gr BTHP Match Bullet
        Rounds per pound: 18.67
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 5.35

        7mm Remington Magnum
        Winchester 175gr Power Point
        Rounds per pound:14.68
        Weight per 100 rounds(lbs): 6.81

        7.62X39
        Wolf Steel Case 122gr FMJ
        Rounds per pound:27.59
        Weight per 100 rounds(lbs): 3.63


        Shotgun Calibers

        12GA 2 3/4" Slug
        Federal HI-Shok Slug
        Rounds per pound: 10.53
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 9.50

        12GA 2 3/4" #4 Shot
        Remington Express 4BK
        Rounds per pound: 9.30
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 10.75

        12GA 2 3/4" #7 1/2 Shot
        Federal #7 1/2 Shot
        Rounds per pound: 10.53
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 9.75

        12GA 2 3/4"00 Buckshot
        Federal Express 9 Pellet
        Rounds per pound: 9.76
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 10.25

        12GA 3" Slug
        Federal 3" Rifled Slug
        Rounds per pound: 8.89
        Weight per 100 rounds (lbs): 11.25

        Ammo Can Weights and Quantities

        To start, different weights of ammo cans and common ammo. For reference, I've gathered information from different sites and from personal knowledge weighing some ammo cans myself. Below is a list of how much various types of ammunition weighs along with the average amount of ammo can fit in both .50 cal and .30 ammo cans. These are rough estimates and of course varies with the bullet weight of each round. For most calibers, the difference in weight between different bullet weights in less than a pound or two per 1000 rounds.


        The weight of empty ammo cans

        .30Cal Ammo Cans (~10"x3-1/2"x7")
        Metal Can ~ 4lbs
        Plastic Can ~ 1.5lbs

        .50Cal Ammo Cans (~10"x5-1/2"x7")
        Metal Can ~ 5lbs
        Plastic Can ~ 2lbs


        AMOUNT PER CAN IS BASED ON LOOSE ROUNDS

        .22LR:
        Average .22LR round:
        Rounds per pound ~ 136lbs
        Weight per 100 rounds ~ 0.74lbs
        Amount of .22LR per .30 can ~ 3400rds
        Amount of 9mm per .50 can ~ 6000rds
        Weight of 1200 rounds ~ 25lbs
        Weight of 2200 rounds ~ 44lbs

        9MM:
        Average 9mm Luger round:
        Rounds per pound ~ 38.10rds
        Weight per 100 rounds ~ 2.63lbs
        Amount of 9mm per .30 can ~ 1200rds
        Amount of 9mm per .50 can ~ 2200rds
        Weight of 1200 rounds ~ 28lbs
        Weight of 2200 rounds ~ 53lbs

        .40cal
        Average .40S&W round:
        Rounds per pound ~ 28.07rds
        Weight per 100 rounds ~ 3.56lbs
        Amount per .30 can ~ 1000rds
        Amount per .50 can ~ 1750rds
        Weight of 1000 rounds ~ 36lbs
        Weight of 1750 rounds ~ 63lbs

        .45cal
        Average .45ACP round:
        Rounds per pound ~ 21.33rds
        Weight per 100 rounds ~ 5.07lbs
        Amount per .30 can ~ 800rds
        Amount per .50 can ~ 1300rds
        Weight of 800 rounds ~ 41lbs
        Weight of 1300 rounds ~ 77bs

        .223/5.56
        Average .223/5.56 round:
        Rounds per pound ~ 37.21rds
        Weight per 100 rounds ~ 2.69lbs
        Amount per .30 can ~ 600rds
        Amount per .50 can ~ 1200rds
        Weight of 600 rounds ~ 16lbs
        Weight of 1200 rounds ~ 33lbs


        .308/7.62x51
        Average .308/7.62x51 round:
        Rounds per pound ~ 19.05rds
        Weight per 100 rounds ~ 5.25lbs
        Amount per .30 can ~ 320rds
        Amount per .50 can ~ 640rds
        Weight of 320 rounds ~ 17lbs
        Weight of 640 rounds ~ 35lbs

        12GA 00Buck:
        Average 12GA 00Buck 2-3/4" shell:
        Rounds per pound ~ 9.76 Shells
        Weight per 100 rounds ~ 10.25lbs
        Amount of 12GA per .30 can ~ 140 Shells
        Amount of 12GA per .50 can ~ 250 Shells
        Weight of 140 rounds ~ 15lbs
        Weight of 250 rounds ~ 26lbs
        /Chris

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        You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
        Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
        Like who?
        Farmers.
        Who else?
        Farmers' mums.

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        • #5
          Epaphroditus
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 4888

          A thin plywood or veneer between layers in the stack with very effectively distribute the load and allow one to stack higher.
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          • #6
            MaHoTex
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2010
            • 5002

            Ammo cans have become outrageously expensive. WTF has happened to the cost of this boxes over the past few years?!?!

            I did pick up an awesome box yesterday which has latches on both sides, and is marked as 800 rounds of linked 223. Large box and will be perfect for the storage of a lot of 22LR rounds. I think it might be this on that was painted over, but I have not really investigated it yet:
            Military surplus gear you can trust. We offer military gear at affordable prices, so you can stay safe on the job or on the trail. Shop Army Surplus World!




            I've got mine stacked 2 high and 2 deep and about 8 or 10 across on a lower shelf of my workbench. I am afraid to stack it any higher or it might rip the brace off the 4x4 post.
            Last edited by MaHoTex; 07-11-2016, 9:59 AM.
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            • #7
              JustEd
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 988

              Originally posted by ABR
              How high are you guys stacking your 230g ammo cases? Right now I'm stacking in rows of 5 high. That's 200lbs sitting atop the bottom cases..
              How does four boxes of 45 equal 200 lbs? And presume you are speaking of fifty round card board boxed ammo?
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              • #8
                LeadFarmer74
                Veteran Member
                • May 2015
                • 3105

                Originally posted by JustEd
                How does four boxes of 45 equal 200 lbs? And presume you are speaking of fifty round card board boxed ammo?
                Lol 200 rnds is "stacking" to you. The OP is talking thousands of rounds of .45.
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                • #9
                  baih777
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 5680

                  Originally posted by JustEd
                  How does four boxes of 45 equal 200 lbs? And presume you are speaking of fifty round card board boxed ammo?
                  when you buy by the case, its usually 500rds per case or 1000rd case.
                  Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                  I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                  I'm Back.

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                  • #10
                    baih777
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 5680

                    Originally posted by ABR
                    How high are you guys stacking your 230g ammo cases? Right now I'm stacking in rows of 5 high. That's 200lbs sitting atop the bottom cases..
                    if the individual boxes have the plastic dividers. then I would not worry.
                    if they have the cardboard divider, I would not go higher. build a shelf.
                    Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                    I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                    I'm Back.

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                    • #11
                      ABR
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 1167

                      Beyond my war era rounds I don't think I've ever owned ammo boxes with cardboard dividers. I'll stay stacked at 5 high (1K case counts). I have plenty of room for now. Maybe go 7 high with 9mm currently @ 4 high.
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                      • #12
                        HighWildFree
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 2103

                        Someone thought OP was talking about 50 round boxes, hahahahaha...
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                        • #13
                          hambam105
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7083

                          For the OP and all other ammo stackers:

                          Please send all ammo that needs proper stacking to my house and I will find a most appropriate stack location in my garage for you.

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                          • #14
                            MaHoTex
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 5002

                            At this point I am worried my foundation will crack from the weight of the Ammo storage. We are not talking about 50 round boxes, but instead mil surplus metal ammo cases filled to the top with all sorts of goodness stacked high and deep.
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                            • #15
                              Intimid8tor
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 6607

                              I have 6 ammo cans high sitting on a pallet. When the pallet gives me issues I'll worry about the foundation. I would have no concerns about stacking those same 6 cans directly on the floor.

                              Maybe I should, but I don't.

                              As for stacking boxes, I have 4 bulk pack 1k round cases of 223 stacked on each other.

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