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  • D.A.V.I.D.
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    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2015
    • 1876

    Permanently attaching muzzle device question

    So allegedly my friend bought an AK pistol and after picking it up from jail he became aware that the muzzle device is not permanently attached. He knows this is not legal and wants to permanently attach it immediately. He wants to have it pinned and welded but will a gunsmith even touch it? If anyone has any suggestions on how to get it taken care of please share. Or another method that he could do himself that doesn't require being welded.
  • #2
    foxtrotuniformlima
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 3457

    Follow the flow chart - no need to permanently attach if it has a BB.
    Anyone press will hear the fat lady sing.

    Originally posted by Vin Scully
    Don't be sad that it's over. Smile because it happened.
    Originally posted by William James
    I cannot allow your ignorance, however great, to take precedence over my knowledge, however small.
    Originally posted by BigPimping
    When you reach the plateau, there's always going to be those that try to drag you down. Just keep up the game, collect the scratch, and ignore those who seek to drag you down to their level.
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    • #3
      d33pt
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1629

      Only needs perm attached if barrel is shorter than 16"

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      • #4
        d33pt
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1629

        Never mind. Missed that it was a pistol.

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        • #5
          D.A.V.I.D.
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          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2015
          • 1876

          Originally posted by foxtrotuniformlima
          Follow the flow chart - no need to permanently attach if it has a BB.
          Its a pistol so it needs to be attached.

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Threaded barrel is only a prohibited feature on semi-auto pistols that accept detachable magazines. [PC 30515(a)(4)(A)]

            In order to be CA legal, a semi-auto AK style pistol must operate using a fixed magazine.

            Because it operates using a fixed magazine, it is CA legal to have a threaded barrel and a non-permanently attached muzzle device.
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30242

              Summary:
              Threaded barrel not installed (by itself*) = legal
              Threaded barrel installed on a bolt-action pistol = legal
              Threaded barrel installed on a lever-action pistol = legal
              Threaded barrel installed on a pump-action pistol = legal
              Threaded barrel installed on a revolver = legal
              Threaded barrel installed on a single-shot pistol = legal
              Threaded barrel installed on a semi-auto pistol with a fixed 10 round or less magazine = legal
              Threaded barrel installed on a semi-auto pistol with detachable magazines = illegal [PC 30515(a)(4)(A)]




              *Due to court cases that have established "constructive possession" of assault weapons... It is recommended that the threaded barrel is not transported or stored with a semi-auto pistol, that accepts detachable magazines, that can use the threaded barrel.
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              "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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              • #8
                foxtrotuniformlima
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 3457

                Originally posted by foxtrotuniformlima
                Follow the flow chart - no need to permanently attach if it has a BB.

                Originally posted by David916
                Its a pistol so it needs to be attached.
                You are not looking at the right flow chart ( or perhaps not looking at a flow chart at all ) - use the pistol one because you are talking about a pistol.

                Anyone press will hear the fat lady sing.

                Originally posted by Vin Scully
                Don't be sad that it's over. Smile because it happened.
                Originally posted by William James
                I cannot allow your ignorance, however great, to take precedence over my knowledge, however small.
                Originally posted by BigPimping
                When you reach the plateau, there's always going to be those that try to drag you down. Just keep up the game, collect the scratch, and ignore those who seek to drag you down to their level.
                .

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                • #9
                  BretByron
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 749

                  Without the lower it is not a Firearm. Someone should be able to work on that. I would go pinned not welded.
                  See ya, Bret. "Prepping like there's no tomorrow" Click here ->sigpic -------or here ->

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                  • #10
                    D.A.V.I.D.
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 1876

                    Originally posted by foxtrotuniformlima
                    You are not looking at the right flow chart ( or perhaps not looking at a flow chart at all ) - use the pistol one because you are talking about a pistol.

                    http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf
                    Well this is good to know, i have one i never took the thread protector off because i thought it was illegal. He called 3 gunsmiths in the sacramento area and told them the situation and 2 said they couldn't touch the gun unless just the barrel was brought in. One said he doesn't know how people are getting these guns, its a felony to have one period, which i knew was some misinformation. Thanks

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                    • #11
                      Bullitt01
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 3905

                      Color me confused!!//?

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                      • #12
                        LeadFarmer74
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 3105

                        Originally posted by Bullitt01
                        Color me confused!!//?
                        Why?
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                        I know your ban hammer is cold hammer forged and chrome lined, im not messin with it!

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                        • #13
                          dyson
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 4342

                          Originally posted by foxtrotuniformlima
                          You are not looking at the right flow chart ( or perhaps not looking at a flow chart at all ) - use the pistol one because you are talking about a pistol.

                          http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf
                          pistol flow chart skips 16(a) and goes directly to 16(b), so no need to perm attach.

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                          • #14
                            Sniper3142
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2004
                            • 2579

                            Originally posted by BretByron
                            Without the lower it is not a Firearm. Someone should be able to work on that. I would go pinned not welded.
                            That is stupid advice.

                            There is No Legal Need to have a muzzle device permanently attached to a California legal AK or AR Pistol (equipped with a magazine lock).
                            Internet Talk is Cheap

                            Man Up, Show Up, or Shut the @#$! Up.

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74HgbjSCLM

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                            • #15
                              D.A.V.I.D.
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                              CGN Contributor
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 1876

                              So I might be wrong about this too but in 5 months won't it be required that it's permanently attached? If you register or go featureless you're going to lose the mag lock so then it wouldn't be ok?

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