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  • rodneyb
    Member
    • Apr 2016
    • 139

    Ca approved gun storage

    Recently I saw a post that mentioned a CA approved gun cabinet, it wasn't the thread topic, it was just an excerpt from someones reply and it caught my attention.

    For my primary gun storage I use a beefed up gun cabinet bolted to the wall in a closet. I want a proper safe but I keep spending my money on ammo. The cabinet is somewhat difficult to access, so I keep my primary HD gun elsewhere. My HD choice changes often but for now I like the idea of my 9mm carbine. It is more difficult to stow away in the bedroom than a handgun.

    My storage solution was to get a plain looking IKEA cabinet, bolt it up high on the wall and add a cabinet lock to the door. Its by no means high security, but it would take a pry bar and a little effort to breech. The idea is prevent access by children (I dont have any), the house cleaner, and give a thief one more layer of security to bypass while keeping my access relatively easy.

    If somebody broke into my homemade cabinet, accessed my weapon, hurt themselves or others, would I be on the hook because its not a UL listed cabinet?

    I did see there is a place to post safe topics but it doesn't look like anybody looks at it..
    Last edited by rodneyb; 07-08-2016, 11:27 AM.
  • #2
    Caribouriver
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2010
    • 645

    I don't believe a homemade gun cabinet satisfies the legal requirement for gun storage and you would be on the hook if anyone gained access and and accidentally or intentionally hurt themselves or someone else . If your weapon inside the IKEA cabinet had a DOJ approved trigger lock or cable lock, you would likely be covered. Or, bolt a CA DOJ approved pistol vault inside your IKEA cabinet. Not a lawyer.

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    • #3
      Teachu2
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 835

      See https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe for requirements. Googled it in ten seconds....

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      • #4
        rodneyb
        Member
        • Apr 2016
        • 139

        Originally posted by Teachu2
        See https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/gunsafe for requirements. Googled it in ten seconds....
        Yeah I Googled that in 9 seconds. It refers to safes, not cabinets.

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        • #5
          Teachu2
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 835

          See attached re criminal storage
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            Teachu2
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 835

            Use a CA approved gun locking device and keep it anywhere you like. Also not a lawyer.

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44651

              Aside from requirements imposed on FFLs, and the problems of unauthorized access by minors of guns are not secure enough, CA law is silent on how one must store firearms.

              The 'approved' stuff is for sale - thus "Roster of Firearm Safety Devices Certified for Sale"; such a thing is required before delivery from an FFL.
              ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

              Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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              • #8
                rodneyb
                Member
                • Apr 2016
                • 139

                Thought about it a little more and somewhat answered my own question. When you buy a gun you have to buy a lock unless you have a safe (safe defined by Teachu2's link). So I assume to store a gun in anything other than a safe its supposed to be locked with a cable or similar. Did not realize that guns in a locked gun cabinet (a steel cabinet marketed as a gun cabinet) were supposed to be cable locked in addition. But from Librarians reply it seems like a recommendation as opposed to a law?

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                • #9
                  Lex Talionis
                  Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 443

                  The best safety device is your own brain.

                  I'm not a lawyer and BTW I also don't have a carb compliant chainsaw either in case anyone asks.

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                  • #10
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44651

                    Originally posted by KrisDSA
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                    Kris, I think your cat is hungry.
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • #11
                      KrisDSA
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 2850

                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      Kris, I think your cat is hungry.
                      Haha. No cats here. Just my son.
                      WildLeaks.org -
                      Former Professional Strangler and Shooting Champ

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                      • #12
                        mrvaudo
                        Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 407

                        I was told even if you have an approved doj safe you still have to buy that cable lock. Baloney?

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                        • #13
                          Librarian
                          Admin and Poltergeist
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 44651

                          Originally posted by mrvaudo
                          I was told even if you have an approved doj safe you still have to buy that cable lock. Baloney?
                          No - Federal law, for handgun transfers.

                          Long explanation here: https://web.archive.org/web/20151122...es.2C_and_Laws
                          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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