Large Capacity Magazine Definition

[Mauserguy]

Hi Calguns,

Governor Brown just signed SB 1446, banning high capacity magazines. If one had magazines from before the ban twenty years ago, grandfathered in under the old law, could they be disssembled into parts to remain legal?

I know repair kits were banned a couple of years ago, but I'm unclear on exactly how? Are magazine parts still legal to possess under S B 1446?
Mauserguy

[Hiking CA]

Is the state compensating the owners of these standard capacity magazines for their value? There has to be millions of dollars worth of standard capacity magazines in CA.

[edgerly779]

No law about high cap or standard cap mags only large cap. No grandfathering in block them.

[dvcrsn]

couldn't that law be challenged under ex post facto and unlawful taking since the bill does not compensate owners for the magazines that are turned in?

[packnrat]

a "high" capacity mag for the ar platform is one that holds 50 or more rounds,
as factory is ether 15 or 30 rounds.


and Ca has a nurtured 10 round limit, so Ca is a sub round count mag.

[Kellan]

I'm curious as to how this affects parts/kits obtained before the part kit ban a couple years ago. Anyone have any opinions?
I'd assume that since 10/30s aren't affected by this most current "high-cap" ban, and parts themselves or a mag body don't constitute a magazine - parts kits are in the clear?

[Aragorn]

Language is Important!!!

a "high" capacity mag for the ar platform is one that holds 50 or more rounds,
as factory is ether 15 or 30 rounds.


and Ca has a nurtured 10 round limit, so Ca is a sub round count mag.

THIS^^^^^^

Vocabulary meanings are important! We cannot cede to the Left's re-definition of what a 'high capacity' magazine is!!! Same goes for 'assault weapon'; albeit that one seems now lost as laws have re-define it's meaning in a legal sense.

I'm sick at heart this weekend. So much for 4th of July... just salt in the wound.

[Liberty Lover]

Just think about De Leon, Hall, Hancock and Levine and their minions snickering and gloating in celebration of their "victory" and that should alleviate your heart sickness and transform it in to righteous anger, indignation and motivation to action over the usurpation of our Constitutional rights.

[Mauserguy]

Yeah, Kellan, are parts legal under the new law. Do us with formerly grandfathered magazines merely have to take them apart, or do we have to chuck them in the sea.
Mauserguy

[pistol3]

couldn't that law be challenged under ex post facto and unlawful taking since the bill does not compensate owners for the magazines that are turned in?

Effectively, the same law was passed in Sunnyvale and the request for an injunction was denied by the 9th Circuit and I think the SCOTUS declined to hear the appeal. That's why standard capacity magazines have been banned state wide. No court is going to come to your rescue.

[ducky_0811]

^^^ yeah I remember reading about Sunnyvale law... and how many magazines were turned in (0).

[Jimi Jah]

The state of California has determined that your legally bought and owned personnal property must be turned over to the authorities without compensation. That is in defiance of the US Constitution's protections of due process. Any confiscated personnal property must be compensated to the owners.

Of course, that will be enforced after all the bathrooms are gender neutral, immigration laws get enforced again and we balance the Federal budget.

So, when are the mag "buy-back" programs to begin?

[RickAl]

Formerly grandfathered magazines

i have had a Galil ARM since 1988. It is registered with DOJ. The only magazines ever made to fit the rifle were 35 round. Are they now dead?

Thx
Rick

[Cokebottle]

couldn't that law be challenged under ex post facto and unlawful taking since the bill does not compensate owners for the magazines that are turned in?

Ex-post-facto would be if they were to charge you for when you acquired them in 1998

Property seizure without compensation is a 4A violation, however, we have the option to sell them to an FFL, or sell them out of state.

So no violation there.

[nynco]

So block plates will not be satisfactory to take a 30 down to a 10?