Armored car holdups in CA?

[DMCA]

I've read somewhere that in California, there is an average of one armored car holdup per week. I don't know if this is accurate but it gives me the craps every time I go in or out of a store or bank, and one is parked outside.

I would imagine the people who stick them up forego the 40 vs 9mm debate and go right for some serious high velocity that might get sprayed in every direction.

How well trained and armed are the guards?

[strangerdude]

Some are prior service military but most just have guard cards with no experience at all. These guy's aren't required to be trained for a fire fight.

[CSACANNONEER]

Guards are not well trained or well paid! My dad drove for Brinks for 15-20 years (some FT and some PT) and was never involved in anything. He got bumped off the run that was hit in Lake County by a Neo Nazi group a couple of weeks before it got hit though. Yep, the one they made a movie about. Anyway, my dad did have a bit more training than Brinks provided, he did part of his military time in Korea, was a local PD reserve officer when he was younger and while he worked for Brinks he was also a federal LEO. But, again, Brinks did not provide the bulk of his training.

[sytfu_RR]

it varies, the avg pay I saw for armored car guards was like $12-$15/hr who with good training would want to work that? I have a guard card/gun card and go re qualify twice a year, sometimes theres guy from armored car companies there to re qualify as well. Half of them ( from my experience ) carried revolvers and when they went to shoot, they couldn't hit the side of a barn. Granted that that was just a few of them. But still you have a guy who are carrying a gun and his first 4 shots hit the floor; the target was 50ft away. Supposed someone tried to rob them and had some "high" powered gun , it wouldn't go well. The companies don't really care either.

[marc4]

Everytime I come out/enter any business and has a armored truck/guard around, I stay away from them or get my business done fast. To me they are bullet magnets.

[pullnshoot25]

we have guys come in to my work to pick up cash and i always check what they are packing. lots of .357 revolvers, one 1911, a glock or two and some look to be CZs or something like that.

[AMDG]

Everytime I come out/enter any business and has a armored truck/guard around, I stay away from them or get my business done fast. To me they are bullet magnets.

I agree 100%. You know the saying... your brain is your best weapon. It is standard operating procedure in my family to avoid armored cars, especially during deliveries and pick-ups. This is especially true now that the economy is in the s**ter.

[jeffsenpai]

Armored car guards are still nothing more than a deterrent for the small time theives. The unfortunate fact is that if any of these guards pull their weapon while on duty, they are immediately fired/terminated, regardless of circumstance. Pretty much every armored company has this as policy.

If I was ever in their position, I would consider the use of my sidearm as a last resort to save my life. If attacked by someone with an AK/AR, and not safe inside the armored vehicle, I'd toss em the money and run for cover. Defending some other company's money ain't worth my life.

[DMCA]

I agree 100%. You know the saying... your brain is your best weapon. It is standard operating procedure in my family to avoid armored cars, especially during deliveries and pick-ups. This is especially true now that the economy is in the s**ter.

This is generally my feeling as well. It's not my intention to cast any aspersions on the guards - they are working for a living.

What about the incidence rate for these holdups - is 1 per week accurate?

[Hans Gruber]

The unfortunate fact is that if any of these guards pull their weapon while on duty, they are immediately fired/terminated, regardless of circumstance. Pretty much every armored company has this as policy.

That's odd. I meant to post about this at some point but here you go. The armored company that services the ATM in my office building has the policy that the escort man draws his weapon and keeps it at low ready as they walk out of the building and back into the truck.

Anyone else seen this sort of procedure? I thought it was a bit much myself.

[Timberland]

They do stupid things. I hate being in a store and seeing somone walk up to me with his hand clinching a holstered gun. Why do the walk around with there hands on their gun? Intimidation factor?

[tmuller]

there is an average of one armored car holdup per week

What about the incidence rate for these holdups - is 1 per week accurate?

Huh...I dunno is it?

[hawk1]

That's odd. I meant to post about this at some point but here you go. The armored company that services the ATM in my office building has the policy that the escort man draws his weapon and keeps it at low ready as they walk out of the building and back into the truck.

Anyone else seen this sort of procedure? I thought it was a bit much myself.

I've seen this exact procedure as well, twice.
Both times the guard carrying will first call to the truck for an ok to exit, then will unsnap and remove his weapon from his holster while exiting the location.

I don't think it's a bit much at all. Lets put you in his place and see if you do everything you can do to make sure you make it home at the end of the day...

[CSACANNONEER]

The unfortunate fact is that if any of these guards pull their weapon while on duty, they are immediately fired/terminated, regardless of circumstance. Pretty much every armored company has this as policy.

Really? Where are you getting you "facts" from? If you're right, I've seen many of them working their last day.

[Hans Gruber]

I don't think it's a bit much at all. Lets put you in his place and see if you do everything you can do to make sure you make it home at the end of the day...

I know what you mean. I guess that with all of the "OOOPSIE"s we've seen lately involving those individuals "trained" or "trusted" enough to be able to handle a loaded weapon in public, I'm a little over cautious.