body armor

[cmmgar15]

where in california could i buy some...ive never seen it for sale to civilians.and what would be good body armor to buy.there are so many types

[Beelzy]

Class 3 or 4 (threat level), and don't forget the ceramic trauma plates.

DragonSkin is a new one, you should check that stuff out. I don't even think
you need trauma plates for it.

[tombinghamthegreat]

where in california could i buy some...ive never seen it for sale to civilians.and what would be good body armor to buy.there are so many types

They are legal to buy and if you use the search button there are threads that may help you. Once and a while in the for sale section of this thread someone will be selling body armor. Also what would you need it for? If you want more concealable armor for day to day then level 2 or level 3a is more effective. If you want heavier armor for a "crisis" or to deal with rifle rounds then level 3 or 4 should work with plates. I am unsure about dragon skin, heard something about the army rejecting it...

[JDay]

Class 3 or 4 (threat level), and don't forget the ceramic trauma plates.

DragonSkin is a new one, you should check that stuff out. I don't even think
you need trauma plates for it.

It'll stand up to a grenade, doubt the operator would live though.

[SDgarrick]

Dragon skin seems to be the real deal. It was indeed rejected by the military, but that was likely political... I saw/read about the Fresno police dept getting ahold of some, and it stood up to all types of rifle and pistol rounds, even bursts from a MP5...hundreds of rounds total.

[Warhawk014]

Dragon skin seems to be the real deal. It was indeed rejected by the military, but that was likely political... I saw/read about the Fresno police dept getting ahold of some, and it stood up to all types of rifle and pistol rounds, even bursts from a MP5...hundreds of rounds total.

dragonskin is good stuff. unfortunately the company is small and not alot of political pull on the hill. if you do a search you wil see lots of videos of DS being punished. and coming out on top.

[The Bacon Eater]

Be ready to spend for it. Search my threads. I found a couple on ebay a while back and the price tag was about 3-5k or something like that.

[FreedomIsNotFree]

Dragon skin is heavy at almost 50 lbs. Add that to an Infantryman's basic load and you are talking about a lot of weight to carry around. Slowing you down can be deadly in and of itself.

The primary reason the Army rejected it was due to its repeated failures to stop penetration.

Army: Dragon Skin armor failed battery of tests

[strangerdude]

Don't expect to buy one at Quartermasters or Long Beach Uniform, they only sell it to LEO, those who posses a valid guard card, PI's, etc.. And they will call your employer to confirm.

As for the dragon skin, I believe that the Army didn't wan to spend the money. If it failed why was the company ordered by the government to keep the materials to make the vest classified. The vest have been tested and has passed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYaSRIbPWkM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNY1MtsVwG8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=861L7Ly-gR4

[dexter9659]

I watched the full Congressional Review Panel Interview regarding the Dragon Skin armor. There was some serious bureaucratic BS going on in that room. Many flavors were seen by the committee. The most rememberable were as follows:

1: Soldiers brought in who were saved by the Interceptor body armor as testament to its superiority... a fact that was pointed out could not be claimed by DragonSkin...(Duhhh they made all their troops gt rid of it or lose their life insurance)
2: Official Gov documents which were dated approved.... before actually approved. (big booboo by DragonSkin)
3: Congressional Committee members calling the DragonSkin rep (CEO?) Anti-American when he questioned the motive of the persons who approved the Interceptor armor.
4: Calling the DragonSkin rep the most disgraceful and unprofessional person they had ever had before them.

I cannot say either body armor is better, as I have never had to use them... However the review was the biggest farce ever. I ate Popcorn.

[sytfu_RR]

Check GALLS.com for Body Armor.

[Mute]

Get it online. Check with Galls and Bullet Proof Me.

[geeknow]

the costa mesa fun show is coming up and there is usually a guy there with a pretty good selection of level 3 and 4 armor. they also have a variety of plate carriers and will custom make level 3 inserts to augment a plate carrier with level 4 plates.

From what i remember, level 4 plates (front and back) were ~600 and level 3 inserts (w/o carrier) were ~500.

good luck.

[Beelzy]

Be advised, one does not need the plates unless rifle ammo is a possible
threat. The vest alone will take care of handgun ammo.

[AaronHorrocks]

The army passed a rule not allowing any body armour that wasn't issued.
Because they want to be sure of the soldier's safety, and not rely on shotty untested products. Or so they claim.