Intrafamilial transfer turn time

[Fjold]

About 10 years ago I sent in an Intra-familial handgun transfer form and it took just under 4 months for the DOJ to respond with an acknowledgement.

On May 24th, I sent in another form and received it back today because I had forgotten to sign it. I'll send it back tomorrow and see how fast they process it.

Encouraging that they seem to have sped up the service.

[that one guy]

Over 2 months for me

[tnlrat37]

My wife did one last year, it took about a month. I sent one in Jan and just got paperwork back on May 25. YMMV

[D0Over]

What paperwork are you referring too? Don't you DROS it like any other firearm?

I'm curious because my mother is gifting me a hand gun. She lives in Florida and can't find an ffl to ship to CA. I'm hopeful your response provides me another solution.

[jeremiah12]

What paperwork are you referring too? Don't you DROS it like any other firearm?

I'm curious because my mother is gifting me a hand gun. She lives in Florida and can't find an ffl to ship to CA. I'm hopeful your response provides me another solution.

The OPLaw form is for Intrafamilial transfers when both parties are residents of CA. Interstate transfers have to go through an FFL per Federal law.

Tell us where you are located and somebody might be able to direct you to an FFL that will help you. Many FFLs only accept shipments from other FFLs so your mom may have to take it to a local FFL in FL to have it shipped to your local FFL.

[D0Over]

The OPLaw form is for Intrafamilial transfers when both parties are residents of CA. Interstate transfers have to go through an FFL per Federal law.

Tell us where you are located and somebody might be able to direct you to an FFL that will help you. Many FFLs only accept shipments from other FFLs so your mom may have to take it to a local FFL in FL to have it shipped to your local FFL.

Thank you for the clarity.

I worked with On Target to accept the firearm (technically a hunk of metal because it's an STI frame). No problems on this end. The problem is the shipper. He said he's not loosing his license over the $30 he will make by doing the transaction. I tried to explain to him he was shipping to an ffl. On Target is responsible for releasing it to me, not him. Didn't matter. I will get it eventually when she comes to visit.

[titan2]

Thank you for the clarity.

I worked with On Target to accept the firearm (technically a hunk of metal because it's an STI frame). No problems on this end. The problem is the shipper. He said he's not loosing his license over the $30 he will make by doing the transaction. I tried to explain to him he was shipping to an ffl. On Target is responsible for releasing it to me, not him. Didn't matter. I will get it eventually when she comes to visit.

How will that work since she's Not a California resident?

[readysetgo]

OP is talking about Intra-familial, Intrastate (think inside) transfer.

Others are talking about Intra-familial, Interstate (think outside) transfer.

Don't confuse the two, different dynamics.

Note for Intra-familial, Interstate and shipping mentioned above: http://www.nramuseum.org/gun-info-re...-and-ammo.aspx

Old article but should be helpful.

If SENDER is a PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL (non-licensee):

MODERN HANDGUN to a licensed FFL DEALER: An individual must use common carrier, cannot use U.S. Post Office. FedEx and UPS require that handguns go by a "Next Day" service. Carrier must be notified that the package contains a firearm.

IIRC there is no requirement for the shipment, as stated, to go from FFL to FFL. Can be Non-FFL to FFL. Don't hold me to it, there's a lot involved here but that doesn't mean it's impossible to figure out, if you look for the right info. Might be a problem with California specific system (forget what it's called for dealers who ship into CA) but I think that applies to dealers only. *Dealer only requirement

Of note to the original post. The transfer takes place and the form + fee are sent in, the response from DOJ does not necessarily 'validate' the transfer. The transfer was complete whenever it was complete. We've seen many times where people think they're waiting for a response to 'complete' the transfer.

[jeremiah12]

How will that work since she's Not a California resident?

Some CA FFLs will do the transfer if the direct blood relative brings the gun into the state and delivers it personally to the FFL. It is really no different than shipping it from an out of state FFL. The parent or whomever is still the legal owner at the time the gun is brought into the state and is not breaking any laws bringing the gun in as long as it is not an AW. The large capacity mags have to stay out of state.

The FFL does the DROS the same as if it came from an out of state FFL. It is not a PPT, so the FFL can charge whatever fee he wishes. Not all FFLs know how to do this or are willing to do this so you have to call ahead.

The 10-day wait and 1 in 30 days do apply. The handgun roster does not apply.

[vpravada]

Do you need proof to show how you're related?

[jeremiah12]

That is a question for the FFL. The OPLaw form for intrastate transfer does not require any such proof, it does not require any information about the person gifting the gun other than the relationship. This is how my then under 21 son legally obtained his handguns, as gifts from me and his grandfather. My son took the test for the then HSC at 18 and passed it.

Generally for the interstate transfer, the FFL wants a letter stating the gun is a gift and stating the relationship between the gift giver and gift receiver. Many also want a photocopy of the gifting party's DL or other government issued ID as is required for most transactions that require the use of a FFL.

Individual FFLs vary on what they want, it is their license on the line so they have set policies to deal with audits by the DOJ and ATF. What is acceptable to one auditor may not be acceptable to another.

So specific questions on what is needed and the process are best asked of the FFL as not all are willing to do the transfer nor are they required to process such transfers as they are not PPTs.

[HardwoodRods]

The answer is of course

[Fjold]

Do you need proof to show how you're related?

If you are doing the in state transfer from a relative and just sending in the form, no you don't.

Even though my daughter has a different last name, the DOJ has never asked for proof of the familial relationship.