Epic CCW fail

[AreWeFree]

Sigh. Guy even had a badge:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.2618098

Thread title and the OP are misleading. clickbait


Guy didn't have a "badge," and it appears from the article he was NOT a valid CCW holder. It states he printed it online, while Pennsylvania has a process similar to CA for issuing LTC. http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-fi...ncealed-carry/


This is basically two really stupid idiots with anger management issues.

[ElDub1950]

Thread title and the OP are misleading. clickbait


Guy didn't have a "badge," and it appears from the article he was NOT a valid CCW holder. It states he printed it online, while Pennsylvania has a process similar to CA for issuing LTC. http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-fi...ncealed-carry/


This is basically two really stupid idiots with anger management issues.

Article states

Sounds exactly like the crappy CCW Badge talked about here many times.

[RazoE]

You must be reading a different article.

Edit: beaten to the punch.

[MontClaire]

[Just Dave]

How does he know this? Was he the one being threatened?

Steele said Storms had no reason to bring a loaded gun to a crowded church on a Sunday morning, and had no right to confront Braxton, who was in the process of calming down.
Want to bet? This is the USA and churches are targets for certain groups

Saved seats at churches?

There is something wrong with that.

My only question is why punch the guy with handgun and dare to shoot him?

He wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have a feeling that there's a little more to this story than what's being reported.

[stix213]

"What are you going to do, shoot me?"

Last words.

While the guy with the gun was a moron, you're just as dumb to dare him to shoot you.

[Cody]

No matter where I hold my laptop that guy is looking at my cat in the corner of the room.

[Lonestargrizzly]

That's what you get for cursing in church.

[Res]

"What are you going to do, shoot me?"

Last words.

Instantly reminded of this

[AreWeFree]

Article states

Sounds exactly like the crappy CCW Badge talked about here many times.

I haven't read anyone on CGN talking about a "ccw badge," but what makes you believe it's a legit issued LTC permit?

Again, OP is clickbaiting and misrepresenting. It's not an "epic CCW fail" as it has nothing to do with CCW. Are we going to count all gang bangers and other miscreants under the "epic ccw fail" banner?

[an actual gun]

“You don’t go to church to be killed, you just don’t do that,” Diana Walters, Braxton’s aunt, told WPVI. “He’s a young man. He had his whole life ahead of him.”

You also don't go to church to cuss people out and cause a disturbance over a damn seat. And punch someone.

I'm not defending this egregious abuse of CCW and an obviously bad shoot, but come on. This guy made some really bad decisions of his own, like punching a guy who was holding a gun. Regardless of whether gun guy has a right to be pointing a gun at someone, is it wise to taunt and punch them?

Is that, quite literally, the hill you want to die on? An argument over a seat?

If someone points a gun at me and tells me to leave, I'm going to leave. And come back with the police. Not gonna be like "shoot me then!" and punch them.

With a little less ego, this guy could've kept his life, and this gun dude would be in jail for brandishing, and lose his CCW. And probably be "asked" to leave from this church's congregation in terms of future meetings.

Now this would of course be different if he reacted with some immediacy at the sight of a gun. But from the way the story puts it, there was this prolonged argument with gun guy. Gun guy didn't have the intent to shoot on sight, just "asked" to leave by wannabe cop, which is probably why he was charged with manslaughter and not murder.

I hate to criticize the dead guy's actions here, but damn. I mean gun dude's behavior is atrocious and he deserves his punishment and more, but that much is obvious. Am I completely crazy on this one?

[Barang]

It was 2 douche bags, one just had a gun. It was a perfect storm of stupid.

He wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. I have a feeling that there's a little more to this story than what's being reported.

One was definitely dumber for confronting a person with a gun the way he did.
And yes, there are more to the story that wasn''t reported. Why and what made Braxton acted belligerently?

That's what you get for cursing in church.

[an actual gun]

I haven't read anyone on CGN talking about a "ccw badge," but what makes you believe it's a legit issued LTC permit?

Again, OP is clickbaiting and misrepresenting. It's not an "epic CCW fail" as it has nothing to do with CCW. Are we going to count all gang bangers and other miscreants under the "epic ccw fail" banner?

Google "Concealed Weapons Permit badge" and see what you find. It's clear they're not talking about him flashing fake CCW credentials, but one of those douchey badges they sell online.

The reason why we assume this was a legit issued LTC is because the article specifies his charges, which do not include anything related to the unlawful possession of a firearm, just manslaughter. I can only assume they'd love to tell us about more gun charges, considering the article is not very sympathetic towards the shooter. And I'm not saying they should be, cause yeah by all indications here he committed a crime and behaved immorally. Although he is presumed innocent, by all indications it would appear he unjustifiably killed someone, and that is what he has been charged with.

[Epaphroditus]

It's kind of funny because one used to be required to bring arms to church and public gatherings.

[tanks]

Religion of forgiveness

Guess the lessons did not take.