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  • #61
    njineermike
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2010
    • 9784

    Originally posted by FrankMo
    I'll bet dimes to donughts his "suggestions" go no where in an election yera with an opposition congress. But you all can stay afraid. No skin off my nose,

    I reaally am puzzled by the level of fear here. Every gun store I go iinto has tons of guns. And ammo. But .303 is expensive, I admit.

    FrankMO
    The "suggestion" to have microstamping of cases on semiautomatic handguns, even though there is no working firearm that actually has that technology in a workable fashion, is now law in CA. The firearms "roster", which is the list of handguns legal for sale in California, is growing increasingly shorter now that the "suggestion" which soon became "law" requires that feature. Already, several manufacturers have "CA approved" models that are pretty much considered laughable in all but a few other states that also have "rosters", but with the new requirements, almost no manufacturer is producing new models for California. It's not financially feasible to do that, since they have a huge market of firearms buyers that either don't need that, or refuse to purchase a firearm with that when given the choice, and the hoops they need to jump through to get a firearm on the roster makes it untenable.

    As Mitch succinctly and eloquently pointed out, this is no hobby. The right to keep and bear arms is an enumerated civil right with equal weight as voting, free speech, the right to a fair trial, the right to an attorney, or the right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment. We take this very seriously. We have too many examples of real world "suggestions" turning into "laws" to be complacent.

    BTW, that Enfield, just a few short years ago, was capable of being sold easily to anyone in CA, but now is subject to the same rules as an AR-15. It also shot lead projectiles, which will soon be illegal in all of California, as it is currently almost completely illegal hunt with lead ammunition, it's coming to ranges in the near future, just bet that dime on it and you'll make money. Today, you could possibly buy that ancient surplus .303 ammo online in affordable quantities to plink targets easily. By next year, given the current crop of laws being debated, you'll be forced to buy in person, with a "safety card" you'll also need to purchase, probably pass a test, as with the handgun safety certificate, meaning any possibility of finding a "deal" is gone, since you'll only be able to buy at stores you can personally get to, and soon enough you will only be able to buy currently produced ammo at premium prices. Going to Nevada or Arizona to buy in bulk? Don't get caught or it's jail time and the permanent loss of your ability to even come in contact with a firearm or ammunition, and that includes your family members as well, since they run the risk of inadvertently allowing a felon to come into possession of a firearm, which would land THEM in prison with a loss of THEIR right to own any firearms right along with yours. Was that Enfield a family heirloom? Did it have special meaning to your father? Well now it's police evidence and it's going to the scrap heap. Unless, of course, it gets diverted by some LEO that likes it and has an interest in C&R (curio and relic) weapons. In that case, it's going to his house to be HIS family heirloom. I have firearms in my family that were owned as far back as 1885, maybe longer, we arent sure. My great great great grandfather carried a 45-70 and. 45-90 in his scabbards when he arrived in South Dakota, and they still reside with us, and there are several more that go back almost as far, each helping to tell the story of the family. Losing that history, along with my civil rights, is not something I take lightly.

    Yes, we take this seriously. Not taking this seriously could land any of us in a state penitentiary and devastate our families for a generation or more. Depending on the whims of a friendly congress or supreme court have been disastrous in the past. California is a perfect example of complacency left to its own devices and not heeding the warnings of smoke before there is a fire.
    Last edited by njineermike; 05-02-2016, 12:35 PM.
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    Dude went full CNN...
    Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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    • #62
      Sabot
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 545

      Once "smart guns" are the law of the land then "stupid guns" will be outlawed.

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      • #63
        kcheung2
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 4387

        Originally posted by FrankMo
        I'll bet dimes to donughts his "suggestions" go no where in an election yera with an opposition congress. But you all can stay afraid. No skin off my nose,

        I reaally am puzzled by the level of fear here. Every gun store I go iinto has tons of guns. And ammo. But .303 is expensive, I admit.

        FrankMO
        Yeah I know, I see tons of Gen 4 Glocks, VP9s, and 27" Tavors. The shelves are overflowing with 30 round AR mags and Saigas and 7N6, and last year when ATF proposed reclassifying M855 ammo, there was plenty of it around. Then I woke up & smelled the infringements.
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        "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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        • #64
          unusedusername
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4124

          Originally posted by cockedandglocked
          I see a black market for criminals buying RFID signal jammers in the near future...
          You wouldn't need anything as complicated as a signal jammer to block RFID.

          A simple spark-gap transmitter made from a car battery, a handful parts from radioshack, and a couple of jumper cables would wipe out all communications within a few blocks.

          That type of transmitter has been banned in the US since the 1920s due to it flooding all frequencies with noise, but it's easy enough to build that your "rob a quickie-mart" type criminals could get a hold of one.


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