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  • #16
    Mitch
    Mostly Harmless
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2008
    • 6574

    Originally posted by Thepug99
    What if smart guns do work. That would be pretty cool technology
    Smart guns solve a problem that doesn't really exist for the most part. I think the only gun-carrying population for which smart guns make any sense at all are police, and of course they will be the last people to adopt any such technology.

    Because we have a Republican Congress, and I am often told Republicans support gun rights, even though they somehow manage to do so without passing new pro-rights legislation, in a way I have never understood, but which seems to make a lot of sense to their supporters here and at large, it would be cool if some Republicans in Congress introduced a bill that encouraged research into smart gun technology, while at the same time prohibiting states from imposing smart gun requirements on their citizens.

    Then we could all talk intelligently about smart guns without getting all emotional and defensive about it.

    Sadly, for reasons that also escape my understanding, but which could maybe be explained by more politically aware people than me, we will never see such reasonable, intelligent pro-rights legislation emanate from our Republican Congress.
    Originally posted by cockedandglocked
    Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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    • #17
      tmh1
      Kitchen Operator
      CGN Contributor
      • Nov 2012
      • 1903

      It is really quite simple - All Obummer has to do is mandate that the Secret Service immediately dumps its current arsenal, and switches over to pure smart gun technology. I mean wouldn't you want to protect the President and his family with the smartest guns, instead of stupid ones?

      Once this is done the rest of the peons will immediately fall in line. Lead by example, right?
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      • #18
        zapatito92
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 768

        Originally posted by Ugly Hombre
        We need smart 'leaders' not 'smart' guns.

        That would be cool.
        this !

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        • #19
          FrankMo
          Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 360

          holster your weapons, hombres. Nothing is going to get past congress no matter what he wants. He can't make law.

          Pay attentioin to more important things.

          FRankMo

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          • #21
            mikeyr
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 1552

            so smart phones have given us a entire generation of stupid people, what will smart guns give us ?

            And my co-workers wonder why I have 2 guns in 10 day jail right now and one more going to jail on Saturday (long gun so no worries about the 30 day thing).

            While I applaud the idealogical technology behind a smart gun as a way to avoid children accidentally killing children or other negligent discharges, i just think it will create more issues down the road.
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            • #22
              Untamed1972
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2009
              • 17579

              If "smart guns" are anything like my "smart phone" when it comes to reliability I will pass thank you very much.
              "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

              Quote for the day:
              "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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              • #23
                Pinto
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 2369

                Friday 4/29 Announcement

                Obama reveals push for 'smart guns'

                President Barack Obama is renewing his push to curb gun violence, outlining on Friday his plans with law enforcement and researchers to encourage the use of so-called smart gun technology and announcing that the Social Security Administration is moving forward with a plan to put its mental health records into the background check system for gun purchases.


                The specifics are based on a report from Departments of Justice, Homeland Security and Defense. Obama had asked them in January to consider whether they should require the technology in future acquisitions of government firearms.

                The steps announced Friday are more modest than that, and appeared designed to win buy-in from law enforcement. They include meetings with law enforcement officials over the next six months with the goal of devising baseline standards for safety and reliability for smart guns that might be used by police.

                So the administration is taking it slowly. DOJ and DHS will work on a set of “requirements that manufacturers would need to meet for federal, state, and municipal law enforcement agencies to consider purchasing firearms with enhanced safety technology” to be completed in October, senior adviser Valerie Jarrett wrote in a blog post on Friday. That effort will also identify agencies that would be willing to participate in a pilot program.

                The announcement also included new research grants and money available to state and local law enforcement agencies that want to buy smart guns.

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                • #24
                  Mitch
                  Mostly Harmless
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6574

                  Originally posted by Pinto
                  The specifics are based on a report from Departments of Justice, Homeland Security and Defense. Obama had asked them in January to consider whether they should require the technology in future acquisitions of government firearms.
                  Ha ha ha, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Loretta Lynch sits down with FBI Director James Comey to suggest his agents start using smart guns.

                  Originally posted by Pinto
                  That effort will also identify agencies that would be willing to participate in a pilot program.
                  Yeah, good luck with that.
                  Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                  Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                  • #25
                    Tuttle
                    Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 146

                    What if:

                    All of law enforcement's weapons had smart technology that was patched in to a central command control network. The officers could radio in their request to have their weapon armed at the time of need. Then the central command operator could merely request a few simple bits of information to initiate clearance to arm the officers weapon. This clearance info could be regarding the situation, suspected penal code violation, description of the alleged perpetrator, etc. Within a few microseconds, the call center could receive the necessary approval from their chain of command and arm the officer's weapon.

                    This could be really great and help promote greater fairness and equity in police shooting situations.

                    /abysmal sarcasm

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                    • #26
                      Kowan
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 1474

                      Netflix has a video about Colt. They have a smart gun prototype they say is too fragile to fire a single round through...

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                      • #27
                        huntercf
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3114

                        Originally posted by Mitch
                        Ha ha ha, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Loretta Lynch sits down with FBI Director James Comey to suggest his agents start using smart guns.


                        Yeah, good luck with that.
                        Or with the generals when they start discussing these be used in the military.
                        Gun control is a 1" group at 500 yds!

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                        • #28
                          Jimi Jah
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 17693

                          Originally posted by FrankMo
                          holster your weapons, hombres. Nothing is going to get past congress no matter what he wants. He can't make law.

                          Pay attentioin to more important things.

                          FRankMo
                          Say that to the 80,000 illegal alien felons he released back into society rather than follow US law and have them deported?

                          Or the 4 million illegal aliens he gave amnesty to with a stroke of a pen?

                          Or the Border patrol agent that was killed by Holder's Mexican gun running operation?

                          Or the hundreds of dead Americans killed by illegal aliens allowed to stay in dozens of sanctuary cities and states?

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                          • #29
                            FrankMo
                            Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 360

                            Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                            Say that to the 80,000 illegal alien felons he released back into society rather than follow US law and have them deported?

                            Or the 4 million illegal aliens he gave amnesty to with a stroke of a pen?

                            Or the Border patrol agent that was killed by Holder's Mexican gun running operation?

                            Or the hundreds of dead Americans killed by illegal aliens allowed to stay in dozens of sanctuary cities and states?
                            good thing this thread wasn't about Obama requiring smart gun tech.

                            Oh, wait.,,

                            FrankMo

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                            • #30
                              Untamed1972
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 17579

                              The hurdle to overcome is the reliability issue. There have not been any significant changes/advancements in gun technology/operation in like what.....100yrs or so?

                              In that time how many gajillions of rounds have been fired in combat in all the various wars and conflicts in that same time? Firearms as they exist today have an indisputable track record of overall reliability. Anything that would be a significant departure from what we have now will have a YUGE hill to climb to gain trust and reliability.

                              In reality they would perhaps need to find a way to test and deploy the tech in other devices that have similar forces and rugged uses involved, but for which its failure to operate is not life threatening.
                              "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                              Quote for the day:
                              "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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