Gen 4 Glocks

[diaz209]

How are these imported into this state knowing they never even reached retailers to begin with. I can't wait to move out of California just so I don't ever have to pay inflated prices on firearms that can be easily obtained in other states.

[DazedandConfuzed]

Some are originally sold to exempt individuals (LE), some come by intrafamilial out of state transfers. I have a daughter living in Alabama, when she decides to come back to Cali, I'll make sure she brings all "her" firearms.

[ChuckDizzle]

Some are originally sold to exempt individuals (LE), some come by intrafamilial out of state transfers. I have a daughter living in Alabama, when she decides to come back to Cali, I'll make sure she brings all "her" firearms.

She could buy and gift them to you now, you'll just have to find an FFL who doesn't mind doing shipped transactions.

I have a guy locally who does FFL work for internet sales out of his home for $50 a pop.

[Glock-a-mole]

A good number of them along with other off-roster handguns, were legally purchased in CA when SSE was available.

[ChuckDizzle]

So the answer is, "a lot of ways."

Which brings further absurdity to the handgun roster idea as it hasn't stopped a single pistol from being available in California, it has just made them more expensive due to supply shortage.

My recommendation would be to have her buy and transfer to you 6 different off roster pistols. Keep the one you like the most, and help out the rest of us by adding five PPT off roster pistols to the pool of available, legal, off roster guns for sale in California.

[Citizen_B]

How are these imported into this state knowing they never even reached retailers to begin with. I can't wait to move out of California just so I don't ever have to pay inflated prices on firearms that can be easily obtained in other states.

There is no issue of Gen 4 reaching retailers. I think you meant reaching civilian customers? As previously mentioned there are a few ways a limited number of California residents can acquire a Gen 4. They are the exception and not common. Once they are owned by a CA resident, PPT isn't an issue.

You don't have to pay inflated prices for non-rostered firearms. That is a choice. If everyone decided not to pay inflated prices, the price would come down. Simple economics. The obvious problem is the roster limits supply while the demand hasn't diminished, hence the inflated prices.

I feel your pain with the absurdity of the roster. The best you can do is direct your time/energy into supporting organizations challenging these laws in court, or by supporting politicians who actually think rationally.

[diaz209]

There is no issue of Gen 4 reaching retailers. I think you meant reaching civilian customers? As previously mentioned there are a few ways a limited number of California residents can acquire a Gen 4. They are the exception and not common. Once they are owned by a CA resident, PPT isn't an issue.

You don't have to pay inflated prices for non-rostered firearms. That is a choice. If everyone decided not to pay inflated prices, the price would come down. Simple economics. The obvious problem is the roster limits supply while the demand hasn't diminished, hence the inflated prices.

I feel your pain with the absurdity of the roster. The best you can do is direct your time/energy into supporting organizations challenging these laws in court, or by supporting politicians who actually think rationally.

Yeah, I was referring to "how they reach the hands of civilians" because I'm sure LE are exempt. About paying the inflated prices you are correct, that is why I refuse to pay them. I do need to become more active in playing a role to remove most of these ridiculous "gun control" laws.

I appreciate everyone's feedback on the topic, my question has been answered.

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[jmunks]

Wait what, please clarify. You can still get them through intrafamily transfer? Back when SSE was active I thought you had to SSE those as well. Are you saying my mother in Reno is going to have a gift for me coming soon?

[SkyHawk]

Wait what, please clarify. You can still get them through intrafamily transfer? Back when SSE was active I thought you had to SSE those as well. Are you saying my mother in Reno is going to buy me a gift soon?

Yes, mother in Reno can send off roster pistol gift. Must go through a CA FFL.

[jmunks]

Holy moly, blowing my mind right now. I love Calguns. I also love Gen4s. Last question: PPTs ARE exempt from 1 handgun in 30 days rule correct (except for LA)?

[Daddyman22]

PPTs are only limited by your wallet. If your mother gifts one to you that you don't like, please gift them to me.😉

[KyleGunGuns]

Holy moly, blowing my mind right now. I love Calguns. I also love Gen4s. Last question: PPTs ARE exempt from 1 handgun in 30 days rule correct (except for LA)?

Not in this case. Face-to-face PPT's are exempt from 1 in 30 but because it is going through an FFL it is considered a dealer transaction and 1 in 30 applies.

[SkyHawk]

Holy moly, blowing my mind right now. I love Calguns. I also love Gen4s. Last question: PPTs ARE exempt from 1 handgun in 30 days rule correct (except for LA)?

Your mother sending a gift by mail from out of state is not a PPT. It is a dealer transfer, and subject to one in thirty.

Also note that mom must follow the law when mailing it, cannot be sent USPS, must be declared in writing, must follow carrier policy etc.

Might be easier to use a FFL to send it to your FFL, but then the out of state FFL must enroll in and use CA DOJ CFLC to get prior approval and include the approval form in the package. Many will draw the line there and say forget it.

If your mom sends it herself, she doesn't need to use CFLC, and easiest to use www.shipmygun.com to stay legal.

[jmunks]

...My recommendation would be to have her buy and transfer to you 6 different off roster pistols. Keep the one you like the most, and help out the rest of us by adding five PPT off roster pistols to the pool of available, legal, off roster guns for sale in California.

PPTs are only limited by your wallet. If your mother gifts one to you that you don't like, please gift them to me.��

More questions then (thanks again Skyhawk & all for the info, this is just all new to me! ..and I consider myself decently educated!).

#1 - It does not HAVE to be shipped right? She can face to face easily as I'm just in Sac, but I understand it would still count as an out of state transfer so FFL is still needed, and I see how it would fall under the 1 in 30 rule.. so it's not really like a PPT at all then, just a normal out-of-state dealer transfer, with the only difference being exemption to off-roster because family?

#2 - Like Chuck or Daddyman commented, once an off roster gun is in my possesion, say a gen 4 glock, then I can transfer it PPT not limited to another person that is not LEO only?