Why?? Hi-Point .380 Carbine

[not-fishing]

My Kahr 380 is a pocket and in the bad guy's belly gun. As is the bullet is pretty anemic so why?



Instead of very-very-poor ballistic performance out of a handgun it's only very-poor out of a carbine.

Since it's just a plinking gun why not just get a 10/22?



Will a .380 even make it 200 yds without having to "howitzer" it in??

[desertrider]

The only reason any business would produce anything is for profit.

My guess is that Hipoint had a very large number of requests for a carbine in this caliber.

I don't own a .380, but I can't imagine using one for self defense. I will admittedly own up to being totally ignorant to the ballistics and capability of the .380 as I've never even bothered to investigate it. Absolutely no interest in one.

I do know that unless someone reloads, .380 ammo isn't any cheaper than 9mm. It's probably more expensive than 9mm.

I love to shoot .38spl. I wouldn't trust my life on a 38, but I have a ball plinking with one, especially with my lever gun. I've heard that a .380 is a better defensive round than a .38spl because it's a higher velocity round.

Having a .380 carbine I don't agree with, but Hipoint makes a decent shooting carbine for sure. I have a TS4595 that has been great for the most part.

I did a modification to it that caused all kinds of problems, but once I found the source of the probs and corrected it, the gun went back to being a flawless performer.

[Monster]

Why Highpoint anything?

[Divernhunter]

It is the answer to a question never asked.

[Condorguns]

Why, because it's inexpensive and fun to shoot. Lifetime no questions asked warenty and easy to find ammo.

[cyclopes85]

Inexpensive?!?!? I have a p238 and 380 is not inexpensive.


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[shakyshoot]

It's usually $2-$3 a box higher than 9mm, and with a gun that weighs over 6 lb, I just can't see any reason not to go with 9mm instead.

[Condorguns]

Inexpensive?!?!? I have a p238 and 380 is not inexpensive.


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The carbine is inexpensive

[desertrider]

The carbine is inexpensive

^^^ He ain't lyin!

There are no exotic metals, hand fitted craftsmanship, or high tech CNC wizardry present anywhere on this gun.

It's low tech, heavy, bulky, and very unrefined. And extremely affordable.

In stock trim it is also reasonably accurate and totally reliable.

[BakoJ]

It is the answer to a question never asked.

Actually, over at the HiPoint forum, it was the most requested item.

[PyroFox79]

Don't knock the .380 it started a world war.

[meno377]

I don't see an issue with a .380 carbine. I'm curious what the velocity is for that.

[arrix]

.380 is also called 9MM Short. Essentially a weaker 9MM round. I would imagine they wanted it because the lower energy would be better for home defense where over-penetration of regular 9MM Para is a concern.

[Jimi Jah]

We won't be done until you can shoot every caliber made out of an AR.

[ChuckDizzle]

The only reason any business would produce anything is for profit.

My guess is that Hipoint had a very large number of requests for a carbine in this caliber.

I don't own a .380, but I can't imagine using one for self defense. I will admittedly own up to being totally ignorant to the ballistics and capability of the .380 as I've never even bothered to investigate it. Absolutely no interest in one.

I do know that unless someone reloads, .380 ammo isn't any cheaper than 9mm. It's probably more expensive than 9mm.

I love to shoot .38spl. I wouldn't trust my life on a 38, but I have a ball plinking with one, especially with my lever gun. I've heard that a .380 is a better defensive round than a .38spl because it's a higher velocity round.

Having a .380 carbine I don't agree with, but Hipoint makes a decent shooting carbine for sure. I have a TS4595 that has been great for the most part.

I did a modification to it that caused all kinds of problems, but once I found the source of the probs and corrected it, the gun went back to being a flawless performer.

A .380 will kill or stop someone just fine. The .38 special cartridge could be faster than the .380 based on a variety of factors, but out of an old service revolver with a barrel length of 4" or more it would probably be going faster than a .380 ACP of comparable bullet weight. There is actually a lot of overlap in energy between the two cartridges, but the .38 tends to be slower, and heavier, while the .380 lighter and a little faster. It is still hotly debated of whether either cartridge, from the small pocket pistols in which they are popular, has enough energy to consistently expand hollow point bullets. In addition, when the projectiles from these cartridges do expand, they often fail to penetrate further than 10 or so inches, falling just short of minimum FBI standards for defensive handgun cartridges.

However, that shouldn't dissuade us non G-men from choosing these cartridges for the ultimate conceal ability and portability many of the firearms offered in these calibers. I've carried pocket pistols in .380 and .38, I like them as a portly fellow who doesn't find IWB that comfortable, and OWB difficult to conceal. In the .38 J-frame I went way back in time for my defensive load using heavy wad-cutters, and in the .380 today I use flat nosed FMJ in my Glock 42.