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  • stickle
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 178

    obscured manufacturer name

    There is some serious federal law about altering or obscuring serial numbers...but...

    A pistol manufactured before WWII has the name of the manufacturer crosshatched off of the top of the slide. My guess is that this was done by the resistance or the Russians later. The serial numbers are clear and unaltered.

    Is this a concern?

    Thank you.
    We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
    ~Ronald Reagan~
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    Federal laws only address the firearm's serial number. [18 USC 922(k)]

    CA laws address the firearm's make, model, serial number, and other identifying marks. [PC 23900, 23920, & 23925]





    18 USC 922
    (k) It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to transport, ship, or receive, in interstate or foreign commerce, any firearm which has had the importer’s or manufacturer’s serial number removed, obliterated, or altered or to possess or receive any firearm which has had the importer’s or manufacturer’s serial number removed, obliterated, or altered and has, at any time, been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

    Penal Code 23900
    Any person who changes, alters, removes, or obliterates the name of the maker, model, manufacturer's number, or other mark of identification, including any distinguishing number or mark assigned by the Department of Justice, on any pistol, revolver, or any other firearm, without first having secured written permission from the department to make that change, alteration, or removal shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.

    Penal Code 23920
    Except as provided in Section 23925, any person who, with knowledge of any change, alteration, removal, or obliteration described in this section, buys, receives, disposes of, sells, offers for sale, or has in possession any pistol, revolver, or other firearm that has had the name of the maker or model, or the manufacturer's number or other mark of identification, including any distinguishing number or mark assigned by the Department of Justice, changed, altered, removed, or obliterated, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

    Penal Code 23925
    Section 23920 does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) The acquisition or possession of a firearm described in Section 23920 by any member of the military forces of this state or of the United States, while on duty and acting within the scope and course of employment.
    (b) The acquisition or possession of a firearm described in Section 23920 by any peace officer described in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, while on duty and acting within the scope and course of employment.
    (c) The acquisition or possession of a firearm described in Section 23920 by any employee of a forensic laboratory, while on duty and acting within the scope and course of employment.
    (d) The possession and disposition of a firearm described in Section 23920 by a person who meets all of the following:
    (1) The person is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm.
    (2) The person possessed the firearm no longer than was necessary to deliver it to a law enforcement agency for that agency's disposition according to law.
    (3) If the person is transporting the firearm, the person is transporting it to a law enforcement agency in order to deliver it to the agency for the agency's disposition according to law.
    (4) If the person is transporting the firearm to a law enforcement agency, the person has given prior notice to the agency that the person is transporting the firearm to that agency for the agency's disposition according to law.
    (5) The firearm is transported in a locked container as defined in Section 16850.
    Last edited by Quiet; 03-23-2016, 7:14 PM.
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    • #3
      stickle
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 178

      Thank you.


      Great to know.
      We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
      ~Ronald Reagan~

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      • #4
        JDay
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 19393

        Originally posted by stickle
        There is some serious federal law about altering or obscuring serial numbers...but...

        A pistol manufactured before WWII has the name of the manufacturer crosshatched off of the top of the slide. My guess is that this was done by the resistance or the Russians later. The serial numbers are clear and unaltered.

        Is this a concern?

        Thank you.
        Isn't the CZ logo clearly visible in a few places on that slide?
        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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