California Safe Handgun Roster - What is the testing?

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Pursuant to California Penal Code sections 31900-32110, an unsafe handgun can't be sold in CA.

What are the testing requirements for this approval? Drop test? Features?

I want to make sure all of my handguns are safe.

[davegonewild]

[tanks]

Current thinking is...

Is it a handgun? If so, is the buyer LEO? If not, then it is unsafe.

[bazineta]

I'm surprised that OSHA hasn't been after all these departments issuing unsafe handguns to their officers.

Think of the children.

[Sutcliffe]

They sell single actions that are exempt

Despite the fact that millions of them are unsafe to carry with a live round under the hammer.
It's not about safety and never was.

[mdolvn]

It goes a little like this

1. You wanna sell in California?
2. Pay us to test your weapon
3. Pay our ransom to add you to our "Safe List"
4. Now that you've paid the initial ransom, you'll pay us every year to renew.

It's about money, nothing more.

[CAL.BAR]

Irrelevant as NO new guns can be added to the list w/o microstamping, and that technology doest yet exist

[glock_this]

Commentary aside... yes there are required features in CA like magazine disconnect, microstamp (new), LCI, stuff like that.

[Bushwack44]

Irrelevant as NO new guns can be added to the list w/o microstamping, and that technology doest yet exist

Not trying to be argumentative, but I thought it does exist (only too expensive to implement). Otherwise, how can it be constitutional to implement a law on a procedure that is just a theory? That's like making a law that people from out of state can't enter California unless they can be "beamed" (i.e. Start Trek) over state lines.

[mdolvn]

It's not Constitutional, but we have no one here that can fight the super powers. The laws are written by Anti Gun, Passed and then upheld by an Ati-Gun court system here in California. It's a rigged game and we can't win because they are holding all of the cards.

[Bushwack44]

It's not Constitutional, but we have no one here that can fight the super powers. The laws are written by Anti Gun, Passed and then upheld by an Ati-Gun court system here in California. It's a rigged game and we can't win because they are holding all of the cards.

I'd think my NRA dollars would fight it. Then again, reality sets in and we have manufacturers who no longer sell in the state and are still doing well (financially).

[BeFrank]

Does not exist

Not trying to be argumentative, but I thought it does exist (only too expensive to implement). Otherwise, how can it be constitutional to implement a law on a procedure that is just a theory? That's like making a law that people from out of state can't enter California unless they can be "beamed" (i.e. Start Trek) over state lines.

Microstamping has never been developed that meets the requirements of the law. There were some proof of concept versions made but they were not able to consistently work and the concept is not being implemented.

[holt7153]

So in all likelihood the roster will continue to shrink?

[Messerschmitts]

Not trying to be argumentative, but I thought it does exist (only too expensive to implement). Otherwise, how can it be constitutional to implement a law on a procedure that is just a theory? That's like making a law that people from out of state can't enter California unless they can be "beamed" (i.e. Start Trek) over state lines.

Obviously it exists, but it is intrusive, a violation of our rights to privacy, and overall onerous and easy to abuse. No gun manufacturer would dare to make a gun with microstamping, they would be tarred and feathered by the firearms community and go out of business.

[Messerschmitts]

So in all likelihood the roster will continue to shrink?

Yes. It will shrink until the last semi-auto pistol is gone. Then all you will have are revolvers. The Supreme Court will NOT consider it a violation of your rights, because you are free to purchase any revolver you like. Then, someone will commit a mass shooting with a revolver, and California will try to find ways to take those off the roster.