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  • chasem5657
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 58

    Marine / Army Rifle ?

    Is the Standard Issue Rifle now days in the Marines/Army the M16A3 or M16A4 ? It looks like it would be a fun Rifle to duplicate. Has anyone made a clone yet ?
  • #2
    BajaJames83
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 6037

    A4
    or M4 depending on unit
    NRA Endowment Life Member
    USMC 2001-2012

    Never make yourself too available or useful...... Semper Fidelis

    John Dickerson: What keeps you awake at night?
    James Mattis: Nothing, I keep other people awake at night.

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    • #3
      CGZ
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 991

      Don't know anyone who used the A3. There were a few A2s when I first got in but by the time I got out it was all A4s or M4s.

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        M-16A4 or M-4A1 Carbine.
        FNH is the current Military contractor for both weapon systems.

        FNH also makes civilian versions of both (FN15 MC 16 and FN15 MC M4).
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          Soginator
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1696

          Originally posted by Quiet
          M-16A4 or M-4A1 Carbine.
          FNH is the current Military contractor for both weapon systems.

          FNH also makes civilian versions of both (FN15 MC 16 and FN15 MC M4).
          Thanks, I almost saved my bonus for my retirement account! That was a close one...
          Last edited by Soginator; 02-26-2016, 11:23 PM.
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          • #6
            mikenewgun87
            In Memoriam
            • Jul 2011
            • 7732

            I dislike the service rifles....

            Only because my unit didnt allow us to use our own optics/lights...

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            • #7
              EspoMan
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 1618

              Originally posted by Quiet
              M-16A4 or M-4A1 Carbine.
              FNH is the current Military contractor for both weapon systems.

              FNH also makes civilian versions of both (FN15 MC 16 and FN15 MC M4).
              What happened to Colt?
              Living in the free State of Nevada

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              • #8
                smle-man
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2007
                • 10593

                Originally posted by EspoMan
                What happened to Colt?
                Not competitive...corporate complacency. I think they got an M4 variant contract recently just to keep them going. The DoD doesn't like to have only one qualified source for something this critical.

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                • #9
                  EspoMan
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1618

                  Originally posted by smle-man
                  Not competitive...corporate complacency. I think they got an M4 variant contract recently just to keep them going. The DoD doesn't like to have only one qualified source for something this critical.
                  Wow. I did not know that they lost the contract. Crazy.
                  Living in the free State of Nevada

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                  • #10
                    mif_slim
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 10089

                    Originally posted by EspoMan
                    What happened to Colt?
                    FNH beat Colt in the lowest bidder catergory. LoL. Jk...
                    Originally posted by Gottmituns
                    It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                    • #11
                      sidelock
                      Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 407

                      Mostly M4A1 in both Army and USMC now due to recent type of warfare requirements, some M16A4 still issued as standard infantry weapon.

                      Since Colt lost the "M4" rights in the court decision, DoD wants multiple manufactories capable of make them.

                      Mind you the M4 has 14.5" barrel, vs. the 16" ones we encountered on civilian market.

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                      • #12
                        fritztkatt
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 1061

                        Every single M4 I've seen, has a pony on it. Including A1 variants.

                        Every single m16a4, has FNH on it.

                        Never seen an a1/2/3 in person.

                        The pic of the FNH rifles there aren't quite right. The rear sight is no longer authorized for use, and ambi safeties have to be approved by the unit. Also, only boots put a rail cover on the top rail.

                        I've seen thousands of m4s and m16s.

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                        • #13
                          sidelock
                          Member
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 407

                          Originally posted by fritztkatt
                          Every single M4 I've seen, has a pony on it. Including A1 variants.

                          Every single m16a4, has FNH on it.

                          Never seen an a1/2/3 in person.

                          The pic of the FNH rifles there aren't quite right. The rear sight is no longer authorized for use, and ambi safeties have to be approved by the unit. Also, only boots put a rail cover on the top rail.

                          I've seen thousands of m4s and m16s.
                          You're correct as in the past Colt got the contract for M4 and FNH got the 16.

                          Most of the issued carbines and rifles are still falls into the two mfg. But things are changing as DoD wants more sources for this critical supply.

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                          • #14
                            phroggunner
                            Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 225

                            Originally posted by fritztkatt
                            Never seen an a1/2/3 in person
                            Originally posted by fritztkatt
                            Also, only boots put a rail cover on the top rail.
                            So how do you like your top rail cover?

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                            • #15
                              bigbearbear
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 5378

                              Originally posted by fritztkatt
                              Every single M4 I've seen, has a pony on it. Including A1 variants.

                              Every single m16a4, has FNH on it.

                              Never seen an a1/2/3 in person.
                              I carried the equivalent to the M16A1 when I did my military service in Singapore, it was a locally built M16A1 (called M16S1) and it says on the receiver licensed from Colt.

                              I guess part of the problem for Colt is also that countries like Singapore who used to pay license fees to them, stopped doing so when they switch to bullpup designs.

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