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  • Ripon83
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2011
    • 6686

    Must I Have 10 Round AR Mags

    So I'm not in one of the territories where magazines over ten rounds are illegal. I owned ARs since the 80's and have plenty of twenty and thirties aging back to before we couldn't buy them. I even have old receipts for some. I sold an AR last year and being polite added a ten round mag, and have come to realize that was my only one. I don't shoot ARs in CA much if at all...more fun in NV.

    Must I have AR 10 round magazines to keep my AR in CA? Or is that just coming soon?
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  • #2
    Snerk
    Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 168

    I don't believe possession of magazines over 10rds is illegal yet. But they're working on it.

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    • #3
      stevec223
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1620

      I take 10 rd. mags to the range or public places when I shoot.. I also have 5 rd. mags when hunting whatever... I don't want or need the attention my standard cap mags may bring... Those are special occasion use only.. No use wearing them out...

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      • #4
        PoorRichRichard
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 3295

        Originally posted by AreWeFree
        A magazine locked rifle/pistol MUST have =>10rd magazines, no exceptions.

        Featureless rifles can use any legally owned magazines of any capacity.
        Source?
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        • #5
          strongpoint
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 3115

          Must I Have 10 Round AR Mags

          Originally posted by PoorRichRichard
          Source?

          Well, state law, mostly.

          It's all detailed on the flowchart.
          Last edited by strongpoint; 02-21-2016, 6:14 PM.
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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Also note, that because of certain court cases, transporting a maglock'd firearm with only large capacity magazines can also be viewed as a "broken" assault weapon (semi-auto rifle/psitol with a fixed magazine capacity of greater than 10 rounds).
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            • #7
              geoint
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 4385

              I also only own a single 10 round ar mag. It came with my PWS MK220 (so in 308)

              I do own a few 10 round AK mags I got from Arsenal. Been totally reliable


              But ya I have a lot of standard cap mags. I leave them all with family except for a few at a stratgically placed bug out location in AZ:cool

              I've thought about getting 10/30s but can't justify the cost as I shoot in CA so infrequently
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              • #8
                nine mil thrill
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1051

                i have a rpk that has a 75 round drum, and some 30 & 40 round mags. this gun is also registered with doj prior to the ban. i also bought some 10 round mags to use on controlled ranges just to lower the attention the gun gets. it is legal for me to shoot with the big mags....i just do not need to spend any time debating it with anyone.
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                • #9
                  Ripon83
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 6686

                  debate

                  I've enjoyed that debate in my own family. It is amazing what people do and don't know - I'm just wondering if I'll be forced to keep some 10 round magazines available in order to use my rifles here in CA. Obviously in some cities this is already the case. Statewide? I hope not.

                  Originally posted by nine mil thrill
                  i have a rpk that has a 75 round drum, and some 30 & 40 round mags. this gun is also registered with doj prior to the ban. i also bought some 10 round mags to use on controlled ranges just to lower the attention the gun gets. it is legal for me to shoot with the big mags....i just do not need to spend any time debating it with anyone.
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                  • #10
                    Oceanbob
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 12720

                    It's probably worth it to own one 10 round magazine.......

                    I have a large pile of pre ban hi capacity magazines and 11 Registered Assault Weapons. I transport legally and include a copy of my CDOJ Assault weapons letter. My big worry is a police officer who thinks he can confiscate my weapons and/or Magazines I've owned since the 1970s.

                    Most of my normal ARs are featureless and while I do have hi caps for them I also have a couple of 10 rounders to display to law enforcement. I dislike jumping through hoops but we must be careful.

                    Be careful my friends.

                    Bob
                    May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                    Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                    Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                    • #11
                      Soginator
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1696

                      I use a magblock and epoxy on mine when in California. On those times I am in Nevada or Arizona, I just take out the block. It's annoying, but it's a good way to stay compliant and not have to buy new mags.
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                      • #12
                        2nab
                        Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 421

                        OP. I think you are still missing part of the equation. Look at the flow chart already linked above. If your rifle requires a bullet button or other type of fixed magazine requiring tool or takedown to remove, than not only is that gun limited to 10rd magazine but the magazine must be locked in the magwell at all times, including transport or storage.

                        Somebody posted about transporting with standard capacity magazines with capacity greater than 10rds. Transporting your bullet button rifle with legally possessed standard capacity magazines is not the problem. Not having a 10 rd magazine locked in the magwell is the problem. As long as you have a 10rd magazine locked in than your rifle is legal. Empty magwell and you are in violation. Of course, a "featureless" rifle void of any pistol grip or other restricted features, would be exempt from any of those restrictions.

                        Short answer is unless your rifle is "featureless" or you have a DOJ Assault Weapons Letter for the rifle, than you need to have at least two 10 round magazines. One which remains in the magwell at all times, and a second one at hand so that you can perform a quick reload. By the letter of the law, (unless you are top loading the magazine while it remains locked in the magwell), the second you utilize your bullet button tool to drop the 10rd magazine, your rile is in violation until you return a 10rd or less magazine back to the magwell. Returning to your bag or bench to reload your only 10rd magazine while leaving an empty magwell is a risk I would avoid, especially if your bag also contains standard capacity magazines.
                        Last edited by 2nab; 02-22-2016, 10:12 PM.

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                        • #13
                          SonofWWIIDI
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 21583

                          10+ round mags in some lo-cals may also be viewed as a nuisance and confiscated as such. In some cities (Sunnyvale for example) +10 round mags have been banned completely.

                          Personally, I use only 10 round mags. Some will say "booooo", but I prefer to be safe rather than sorry, and chose not to draw the attention of those who may want to take them away.

                          But that's just me. YMMV.
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                          • #14
                            strongpoint
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 3115

                            Must I Have 10 Round AR Mags

                            Originally posted by 2nab
                            OP. I think you are still missing part of the equation. Look at the flow chart already linked above. If your rifle requires a bullet button or other type of fixed magazine requiring tool or takedown to remove, than not only is that gun limited to 10rd magazine but the magazine must be locked in the magwell at all times, including transport or storage.

                            Somebody posted about transporting with standard capacity magazines with capacity greater than 10rds. Transporting your bullet button rifle with legally possessed standard capacity magazines is not the problem. Not having a 10 rd magazine locked in the magwell is the problem. As long as you have a 10rd magazine locked in than your rifle is legal. Empty magwell and you are in violation. Of course, a "featureless" rifle void of any pistol grip or other restricted features, would be exempt from any of those restrictions.

                            Short answer is unless your rifle is "featureless" or you have a DOJ Assault Weapons Letter for the rifle, than you need to have at least two 10 round magazines. One which remains in the magwell at all times, and a second one at hand so that you can perform a quick reload. By the letter of the law, (unless you are top loading the magazine while it remains locked in the magwell), the second you utilize your bullet button tool to drop the 10rd magazine, your rile is in violation until you return a 10rd or less magazine back to the magwell. Returning to your bag or bench to reload your only 10rd magazine while leaving an empty magwell is a risk I would avoid, especially if your bag also contains standard capacity magazines.
                            Wow, just wow. Wish I had time to do more than be glib, but:

                            .

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by 2nab
                              OP. I think you are still missing part of the equation. Look at the flow chart already linked above. If your rifle requires a bullet button or other type of fixed magazine requiring tool or takedown to remove, than not only is that gun limited to 10rd magazine but the magazine must be locked in the magwell at all times, including transport or storage.

                              Somebody posted about transporting with standard capacity magazines with capacity greater than 10rds. Transporting your bullet button rifle with legally possessed standard capacity magazines is not the problem. Not having a 10 rd magazine locked in the magwell is the problem. As long as you have a 10rd magazine locked in than your rifle is legal. Empty magwell and you are in violation. Of course, a "featureless" rifle void of any pistol grip or other restricted features, would be exempt from any of those restrictions.

                              Short answer is unless your rifle is "featureless" or you have a DOJ Assault Weapons Letter for the rifle, than you need to have at least two 10 round magazines. One which remains in the magwell at all times, and a second one at hand so that you can perform a quick reload. By the letter of the law, (unless you are top loading the magazine while it remains locked in the magwell), the second you utilize your bullet button tool to drop the 10rd magazine, your rile is in violation until you return a 10rd or less magazine back to the magwell. Returning to your bag or bench to reload your only 10rd magazine while leaving an empty magwell is a risk I would avoid, especially if your bag also contains standard capacity magazines.
                              Complete FUD! It is completely legal to remove the magazine from a bullet button equipped rifle at anytime.
                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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