CA man busted for 3,800 80% Lowers!

[mif_slim]

Arnt those ep lowers?

[uxo2]

OP FAIL

He didn't read the article.


It says


Christopher Cook manufactured and sold unserialized polymer AR-15 lower receivers online

[guns4life]

Precisely, at one point a completed lower was completed and then back-filled.
Cook manufactured completed lowers, with the intent to distribute them and then attempted to un-complete them by back-filling the FCG.
What material he back-filled them with is unimportant.

At one point my recycled soda bottle was a bag of chips. Who cares what it was as long as it was =/>80% completed by the time it was sold. I think any rational person would agree that there could be many steps in creating any particular product prior to it being presented for sale.


Maybe Cook cut the FCG and then back filled it as the very first step in the process(still an 80% after). If they went that route then they did not create a firearm at any point in the process.

[drifts1]

This old news.

They made 'more than' 80% receivers then filled them to get back to 80%. ATF said NO.

[Tolerance]

I remember this case. Ares challenged the ruling in court IIRC
What was the final outcome?

Coincidentally, I just saw this today on another website:

http://bearingarms.com/ep-armory-forfeits-3800-80-polymer-lowers-feds-called-illegal/

[onelonehorseman]

Sounds like the guy is boned for sure. Hopefully he has a clean record otherwise, and can afford a good attorney who can PB the charges down and avoid serious Federal jail time.

[onelonehorseman]

Coincidentally, I just saw this today on another website:

http://bearingarms.com/ep-armory-forfeits-3800-80-polymer-lowers-feds-called-illegal/

So the owner is not being charged if he relinquishes all of the lowers?

[Tolerance]

So the owner is not being charged if he relinquishes all of the lowers?

[glbtrottr]

LOL.

I remember the discussion I had with the owner before he sold these large scale outside Jason's office. I even recall specifically sending a receiver in of the same color before this whole rau started and introducing them to Ares.

I got screwed in the process but everyone gets theirs in the end.

[Awesomesauce]

OP mega fail, and posters fail as well.
This is EP Armory, discussed AD NAUSEM.
TOLERANCE caught it, and linked to the "more clear" bearingarms report.

http://bearingarms.com/ep-armory-forfeits-3800-80-polymer-lowers-feds-called-illegal/

EDIT- EP armory megathread here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=907095

[ColdDeadHands1]

OP mega fail, and posters fail as well.
This is EP Armory, discussed AD NAUSEM.
TOLERANCE caught it, and linked to the "more clear" bearingarms report.

http://bearingarms.com/ep-armory-forfeits-3800-80-polymer-lowers-feds-called-illegal/

EDIT- EP armory megathread here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=907095

Hey lamesauce. I did read the article which was current and did not mention EP armory. Was the intent of your post simply to be a jerk off?

[zman]

Bakersfield man busted in sting by the ATF with over 3,800 polymer, 80% lowers. His lowers had different color plastic to indicate the limits of milling required. Apparently, the ATF deemed this color indication crossed the line beyond 80% and is now prosecuting him for dealing in unserialized firearms! I hope he has a good lawyer.

In my opinion, these lowers still required all the milling any other 80% lower requires to make a firearm receiver. Why in the hell should color coding trigger any additional level of completion???

http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-n...eiver-firearms

Also...

http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/federal-officers-searching-bakersfield-business-and-home-030714

[junior805]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHoM5gASeA&feature=sha

[JDay]

BATFE viewed that the polymer lower was first made as a receiver (main color plastic), then filled in with a secondary polymer (secondary color plastic that is suppose to be milled out). Which is why the BATFE considered these to be receivers and not "80% receivers".

Except they were made the exact opposite.

[bk23103]

I never cared for EP Armory or the owner anyway. He's kind of a tool and used to run around town in a BMW with the plate "GUNRUNR" or something similar. Hmm. No wonder he got attention from the Feds.