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  • vliberatore
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2011
    • 10055

    Name That Cartridge: Part 3

    Part 3 of our series...

    So I'm visiting my parents this week and my dad was recently given a cartridge collection. There are a LOT of obscure cartridges in the collection. I thought it would be fun to play "Name that cartridge" with the geniuses at Calguns.

    Here is the cartridge in question (pictured with .45 ACP for size)

    Originally posted by fighterpilot562
    Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.
  • #2
    Sir Toast
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 3140

    No clue. Is it from the 1800's? Looks like they over crimped the wrong end.

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    • #3
      Merc1138
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19742

      benet primed... .50 something?

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      • #4
        Half Cocked
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 1707

        50 caliber Remington rimfire.

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        • #5
          vliberatore
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Dec 2011
          • 10055

          Originally posted by Sir Toast
          No clue. Is it from the 1800's? Looks like they over crimped the wrong end.
          It is

          Originally posted by Merc1138
          benet primed... .50 something?
          It is

          Originally posted by Half Cocked
          50 caliber Remington rimfire.
          Winner!

          From what I understand, this was for the Remington Rolling Block Pistol
          Last edited by vliberatore; 01-24-2016, 8:55 PM.
          Originally posted by fighterpilot562
          Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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          • #6
            Merc1138
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19742

            Originally posted by Half Cocked
            50 caliber Remington rimfire.
            Nope. It's a benet prime, still centerfire.

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            • #7
              Merc1138
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19742

              Wait, what? That is NOT a rimfire cartridge.

              edit: That crimp toward the rim is holding the benet primer cup, it's a centerfire.


              Last edited by Merc1138; 01-24-2016, 8:58 PM.

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              • #8
                vliberatore
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Dec 2011
                • 10055

                Originally posted by Merc1138
                Wait, what? That is NOT a rimfire cartridge.

                edit: That crimp toward the rim is holding the benet primer cup, it's a centerfire.
                I can only find it listed as a rimfire, even though it has the benet primer cup.

                Also seen it referred to as .50 Remington Navy and .50 Remington Pistol, but still categorized as a rimfire.
                Last edited by vliberatore; 01-24-2016, 9:04 PM.
                Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                • #9
                  Merc1138
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19742

                  Originally posted by vliberatore
                  I can only find it listed as a rimfire, even though it has the benet primer cup.
                  Rimmed cartridge yes, not rimfire(or lipfire). Whoever called that a rimfire is simply wrong, because it wouldn't work in a rimfire gun even if chambered for it.

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                  • #10
                    Half Cocked
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1707

                    .58 Benet Internal Primed Ball Cartridge for the 1866 Allin Conversion Muskets.

                    Put the mic or calipers on it.

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                    • #11
                      Merc1138
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19742

                      Originally posted by Half Cocked
                      .58 Benet Internal Primed Ball Cartridge for the 1866 Allin Conversion Muskets.

                      Put the mic or calipers on it.
                      Now that sounds more likely.

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                      • #12
                        vliberatore
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 10055

                        Originally posted by Half Cocked
                        .58 Benet Internal Primed Ball Cartridge for the 1866 Allin Conversion Muskets.

                        Put the mic or calipers on it.
                        Measures .507"
                        Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                        Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                        • #13
                          Merc1138
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19742

                          Originally posted by vliberatore
                          Measures .507"
                          Must have been some other random conversion then? Or one of those cartridges the navy or army adopted for a whopping 6-12 months.

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                          • #14
                            vliberatore
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 10055

                            Originally posted by Merc1138
                            Must have been some other random conversion then? Or one of those cartridges the navy or army adopted for a whopping 6-12 months.
                            I see it referred to as 50 Caliber Remington SS Pistol Benet primed here:
                            Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                            Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                            • #15
                              Half Cocked
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1707

                              Remington Navy 1865 rolling block pistols were chambered for .50 rimfire and then the Navy produced a centerfire version in 1867. This is likely a cartridge for the centerfire pistol.

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