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  • RaceRAW22
    Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 102

    Stop Using "High Capacity Magazine" Moment

    I don't know if I'm the only one but I can't stand when people call standard capacity magazines high capacity magazines. I even hear it from firearm enthusiast, even more so here in California (and other non friendly 2A states). Is it because we have had to deal with neutered magazines for so long that we are actually starting to believe that anything over a 10 round magazine is a High Cap. Let's please start a moment now to start calling things by their proper name. For example, if the firearm comes standard (in free states) from the manufacture with a 15, 17, 30, etc. round magazine, these are "standard capacity magazines", not high caps. The 10 round magazines we have to use here in California are "neutered magazines". Now granted I still refer to magazines with a greater capacity then that of what the manufacturer typically sends as high capacity magazines. Such as, SureFire 60 round and 100 round magazines, these are true "high capacity magazines". I know this not a big deal but I feel everyone is becoming numb to our rights being deminished. So please everyone when you are at the range, the gun shop, talking firearm politics, or just engaging in daily conversation, start using these proper terms and politely correct someone that misuses them. By doing this not only are you retraining your own subconscious to remember the true difference between high capacity, standard capacity and neutered magazines, but you are also providing that knowledge to the others. While there are many other atacks on our 2nd Amendment Right, it is vital we don't let ourselves subside to even the smallest of infringements.
  • #2
    Merc1138
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19742

    Originally posted by RaceRAW22
    I don't know if I'm the only one but I can't stand when people call standard
    That right there is the point where I gave up attempting to read your wall of text, so I'll just guess what the rest says and reply accordingly.

    We know. They're "standard" capacity(also a misnomer in some applications). Yes, it's a matter of word games from the left. Most people don't care. As far as practical discussion in CA due to how the penal code is written(and it can matter when wanting to keep your rear or someone else's out of jail), you could simply use "large capacity magazine" instead.

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    • #3
      SkyHawk
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2012
      • 23532

      Originally posted by RaceRAW22
      I don't know if I'm the only one but I can't stand when people call standard capacity magazines high capacity magazines. I even hear it from firearm enthusiast, even more so here in California (and other non friendly 2A states). Is it because we have had to deal with neutered magazines for so long that we are actually starting to believe that anything over a 10 round magazine is a High Cap?
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      Let's please start a movement now to start calling things by their proper name. For example, if the firearm comes standard (in free states) from the manufacturer with a 15, 17, 30, etc. round magazine, these are "standard capacity magazines", not high caps. The 10 round magazines we have to use here in California are "neutered magazines".
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      Now granted I still refer to magazines with a greater capacity than that of what the manufacturer typically sends as high capacity magazines. Such as SureFire 60 round and 100 round magazines, these are true "high capacity magazines". I know this not a big deal but I feel everyone is becoming numb to our rights being diminished.
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      So please everyone when you are at the range, the gun shop, talking firearm politics, or just engaging in daily conversation, start using these proper terms and politely correct someone that misuses them. By doing this not only are you retraining your own subconscious to remember the true difference between high capacity, standard capacity and neutered magazines, but you are also providing that knowledge to the others. While there are many other attacks on our 2nd Amendment Right, it is vital we don't let ourselves subside to even the smallest of infringements.
      Sorry man, huge wall of text always brings out the punctuation/spelling nazi in me.

      I'd be happy if people just stopped calling magazines, 'clips'. I always try and use the term 'standard capacity' when referring to magazines we cannot get here.

      While we're at it, we also need to stop calling compliance parts like magazine locks, 'bullet buttons'.
      Last edited by SkyHawk; 01-24-2016, 9:40 PM.
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      • #4
        TKM
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        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 10657

        What's with all of the noobs racing into the stable where the dead horses were dragged off to the taco stands years ago?

        The beatings are a distant memory.

        Leave us alone, go bother your kids.

        Punctuation is your friend.
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        • #5
          Merc1138
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19742

          Originally posted by TKM
          What's with all of the noobs racing into the stable where the dead horses were dragged off to the taco stands years ago?

          The beatings are a distant memory.

          Leave us alone, go bother your kids.

          Punctuation is your friend.
          Probably people that just finally woke up and realized the situation that we're in.

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          • #6
            Ron-Solo
            In Memoriam
            • Jan 2009
            • 8581

            Sorry, but "high capacity" magazines are a legal definition here in California, regardless of what the rest of the would calls them. There are bigger fish to fry.

            Just call them "limited capacity fun disbursement devices" and not get stressed out over details.
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            • #7
              SWalt
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2012
              • 8702

              To be reminded of these things is good. There are people who never thought of these things and threads like this can be helpful. Think of the 18 yr old who likes guns but only heard "high capacity" all his life. Us old timers who have been there done that shouldn't be too upset someone else brings it up for the millionth time. I can say "GCA of '68, will you shut up about it? Been hearing about it all my life since the day it passed!" That won't help anyone though.
              ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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              • #8
                major burnout
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Dec 2010
                • 3862

                Yeah the ol' 'standard cap' threads bring out the fakers.
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                • #9
                  Doheny
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13820

                  Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                  Sorry, but "high capacity" magazines are a legal definition here in California, regardless of what the rest of the would calls them. There are bigger fish to fry.

                  Just call them "limited capacity fun disbursement devices" and not get stressed out over details.
                  Yup.
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                  • #10
                    Sapperforward
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 2928

                    pointless thread is pointless.

                    Also was this supposed to be a "moment" or a movement?

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                    • #11
                      Chaos47
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 6615

                      Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                      Sorry, but "high capacity" magazines are a legal definition here in California, regardless of what the rest of the would calls them. There are bigger fish to fry.

                      Just call them "limited capacity fun disbursement devices" and not get stressed out over details.

                      The proper legal term in the CA PC is "large-capacity magazine".

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                      • #12
                        SWalt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 8702

                        Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                        Sorry, but "high capacity" magazines are a legal definition here in California, regardless of what the rest of the would calls them. There are bigger fish to fry.

                        Just call them "limited capacity fun disbursement devices" and not get stressed out over details.
                        So...since "Man" and "Wife" is no longer available on CA marriage certificates and "Man and Wife" is no longer a legal term, what are you married to now?
                        ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                        "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #13
                          Librarian
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 44696

                          Originally posted by Chaos47
                          The proper legal term in the CA PC is "large-capacity magazine".
                          Right - that's anything 11 or more.

                          A standard 1911 magazine is 7 rounds - more than that might be 'high capacity', but 8, 9, or 10 would not be a CA 'large-capacity' magazine.

                          'Standard capacity' is weapon dependent. 'Large-capacity' has a (stupid) legal definition. Use the legal term where it matters, in CA legal discussions.
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                          • #14
                            Dimitri A.
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 931

                            Nope, you're not the only one.

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                            • #15
                              Cokebottle
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 32373

                              Originally posted by Librarian
                              Right - that's anything 11 or more.

                              A standard 1911 magazine is 7 rounds - more than that might be 'high capacity', but 8, 9, or 10 would not be a CA 'large-capacity' magazine.

                              'Standard capacity' is weapon dependent. 'Large-capacity' has a (stupid) legal definition. Use the legal term where it matters, in CA legal discussions.
                              Ditto.

                              I've got four high capacity magazines for my Shield. One holds 8 rounds, and three hold 9 rounds... each holds one more than they did when they came from the factory.
                              But none of these magazines are illegal, and none are "Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices"
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