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  • VolvoWrench
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1007

    Moving to new area. Mositure question.

    Hello all.
    I put an offer in on a condo that is extremely close to the beach that gets airborne salt air. The condo does not seem to have any moisture / mold / mildew / smell issues but, I want to protect my stuff that is inside the house and the safe (that will be in the garage on the bottom level).

    Question is, in high humidity areas, does the moisture rise or, fall? Will there be more or less moisture on the third floor vs. the garage? Should I run a De-humidifyer just for insurance? If so, on what floor? I'm already planning on putting golden rods in the safe that will be in the garage.

    Any other helpful info. for living very close to the beach is appreciated.
    Boston Strong!

  • #2
    russ69
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2009
    • 9348

    A cool dry place. That is something the beach is not. I have never lived at the beach but from what I understand, you will have a hard time keeping your guns blemish free anywhere near the beach. A garage that is not heated or cooled is worse, stable temperature is the best. Salt air is a mother.
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    • #3
      musick
      CGSSA Associate
      • Sep 2012
      • 1062

      FWIW, temps and humidity levels should be less subject to extreme swings inside a house than in a garage.

      If the safe is in a garage, run multiple golden rods and initially inspect the stuff weekly, then bi-weekly. Keep it well oiled and/or consider something with a greater viscosity to offer additional protection.

      The details you provided are pretty vague so only general guidelines can be provided.

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      • #4
        CoopsDad
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1710

        I lived on the Outer Banks of NC for a while and the salt air makes anything metal turn to rust. My older 10/22 still has chancres of corrosion from those 2 years, and the gun was kept well oiled and stored in a moisture resistant gun bag.

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        • #5
          Garv the innocent
          RSG Minion, Senior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2014
          • 9036

          I am about a mile from the beach and it gets foggy and humid at times, but not salty fortunately.

          I have a goldenrod at the bottom of the safe and a 1 pound box of desiccant at the top of the safe.

          I have to bake out the desiccant about twice a year, not a problem.

          No rust or corrosion in two years here.

          I would use the goldenrod and get indicating silica gel from Amazon.
          Keep the container visible so you know when to re-heat it.
          Originally posted by Kestryll:
          It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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          • #6
            jkody
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1081

            ^this in addition to moving safe inside the house as inside has better insulation and moisture barrier.

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            • #7
              L84CABO
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2009
              • 8704

              Goldenrod + Desiccant + Humidity Gauge (they make ones with a probe that you can put into the safe and the monitor sits on the outside so you can monitor humidity on the inside). Start there and get a feel for things. Keep your guns clean and wiped down with a silicone treated cloth. Check status daily until things seam reasonably stable. Then check every three days until you build up to weekly (with silicone wipe down weekly). In a costal environment, I would check guns weekly always and forever.
              "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

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              • #8
                VolvoWrench
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1007

                Thanks for the replies.
                I'm currently running 3 of these in my safe

                and a digital humidity gauge.
                I read on here a while ago that my desiccants are crap.

                Please chime in on really good re-chargeable desiccants.
                Boston Strong!

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                • #9
                  EspoMan
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1618

                  Originally posted by VolvoWrench
                  Thanks for the replies.
                  I'm currently running 3 of these in my safe

                  and a digital humidity gauge.
                  I read on here a while ago that my desiccants are crap.

                  Please chime in on really good re-chargeable desiccants.
                  I use two of those as well and I've never had a problem in over 3 years of using them. I'm assuming they work because every week or so they turn pink and I have to recharge them.
                  Living in the free State of Nevada

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                  • #10
                    fal_762x51
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2711

                    I live two to three miles from the ocean. While not warmer weather, the humidity here is usually 90% (except in February).

                    I have my collection in my safe that has all the holes sealed, but the door does not have a gasket. All the guns are in gun socks and I have a big dehumidifier rod on the bottom. I never had any issues. When my old rod died (not known for a month), I had a stock form mold on it.
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                    • #11
                      L84CABO
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8704

                      Originally posted by VolvoWrench
                      Thanks for the replies.
                      I'm currently running 3 of these in my safe

                      and a digital humidity gauge.
                      I read on here a while ago that my desiccants are crap.

                      Please chime in on really good re-chargeable desiccants.
                      For the most part I believe desiccant is desiccant although some will change color when saturated. I use one like this...



                      It's relatively cheap so if you think you've got crappy stuff, it's pretty cheap to replace.
                      "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

                      Fighter Pilot

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                      • #12
                        Californio
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 4169

                        Bull Frog Rust Blocker Shield

                        One in the bottom and One in the top of your safe, change once a year.

                        "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                        • #13
                          Flyliner
                          Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 288

                          I live about 50yrds for the beach/water. Its routinely over 70% humidity, especially last summer. I've had no rust on my firearms (knock on wood), here's how I store them (safe is inside the house):

                          1. Golden Rod (most important item on the list, error on one that is for more cu.ft. than you need.)[/URL]

                          2. Large desiccant cannisters. (I use 3, you may need more or less depending on your safe size, again error on the side of having too many. Recharge them as needed, I have to do it about once a month.)

                          3. Silicone impregnated Gun Socks (I use them more for bump/scratch protection not for humidity, but I'm sure they help).

                          4. 2 Humidity Monitors, one inside the safe and one outside. This is how you will know your humidity control measures are working.

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                          Last edited by Flyliner; 01-15-2016, 5:45 PM.
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                          • #14
                            VolvoWrench
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 1007

                            Thank you all.
                            The reason I mentioned that the Eva dry dehumidifiers is crap is because someone on here said that the actual amount of desiccant is ridiculously small.
                            Boston Strong!

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                            • #15
                              OlderThanDirt
                              FUBAR
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5935

                              Originally posted by Flyliner
                              I live about 50yrds for the beach/water. Its routinely over 70% humidity, especially last summer. I've had no rust on my firearms (knock on wood), here's how I store them (safe is inside the house):

                              1. Golden Rod (most important item on the list, error on one that is for more cu.ft. than you need.)[/URL]

                              2. Large desiccant cannisters. (I use 3, you may need more or less depending on your safe size, again error on the side of having too many. Recharge them as needed, I have to do it about once a month.)

                              3. Silicone impregnated Gun Socks (I use them more for bump/scratch protection not for humidity, but I'm sure they help).

                              4. 2 Humidity Monitors, one inside the safe and one outside. This is how you will know your humidity control measures are working.

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                              I'm about the same distance and do about the same things with no problems. My house and garage are really well insulated, so it is pretty dry inside. I try to not open up the house when the surf is really big and there is a salt water haze over the house.
                              We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                              Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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