Facebook discussion with pro gun control idiots

[lunarkingdom]

[lunarkingdom]

[lunarkingdom]

Why are you arguing with idiots?

I normally do not but the relentless posts about gun control are not receiving any backlash and I am home sick and cranky so I thought I would give them a history lesson and a ton of resistance so they might (doubtful) think twice before doing it again (I know wishful thinking lol).

[email]

Ask him what "well regulated" meant at the time the Constitution was framed.

Then wait for the obfuscation, diversion or crickets.

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[cdtx2001]

Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[lunarkingdom]

I know lol I normally do not but I am home with a pinched nerve in my back so I am cranky today ;-)

[vintagearms]

http://bearingarms.com/well-regulated/

[lunarkingdom]

Thanks for the link vintagearms, I can always use more wood for the fire ;-)

[howbobert]

You can give vast amounts of facts, figures or quotes to them, but you will always be wrong in their eyes. Because they view themselves as the enlighten ones and if you don't agree with their opinion you are wrong. Even if the facts prove they are wrong they won't admit it.

Sometimes I would rather do this , than argue with them. But more power to you, because the stupidity is strong in that one.

[Noble Cause]

A reasonable person will listen.

A Anti Rights Zealot will not.

There is value though, in debates with these rigid minded idiots.
You will never convince them with the Facts, Truth or Logic.

But you might convince some of the people watching the debate.

That's why we need to challenge their propaganda each and every time
the spew it publicly.


Noble

[SB1964]

You must be a new shooter, congrats! As a lifelong shooter with a huge family of mostly libs...All I ever say (if they persist) "Don't call me when your doors getting kicked in"

Amazing they how think after a significant power failure, maybe a natural disaster or even local rioting, that cops will be there for them. They'll be lucky if their phones work, literally.

It's very rare that I waste the energy on them, good luck.

[Noble Cause]

Others have already posted the meaning of well regulated at the time
the 2nd Amendment was written, I will add this:

Constitution Society...
The meaning of the phrase "well-regulated" in the 2nd amendment

http://www.constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm

The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.

Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

The modern meaning does NOT apply when interpreting the 2nd amendment .


EDITED to add reference from Heller decision...

Wikipedia
Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Meaning of "well regulated militia"

The term "regulated" means "disciplined" or "trained".[160] In Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court stated that "[t]he adjective 'well-regulated' implies nothing more than the imposition of proper discipline and training."[161]

In the year prior to the drafting of the Second Amendment, in Federalist No. 29 Alexander Hamilton wrote the following about "organizing", "disciplining", "arming", and "training" of the militia as specified in the enumerated powers:

Noble

[alfred1222]

You have way too much free time man

[boltmopar]

Yeah, your wasting your time. I Outd like to add that the part of the military taking you out with just one drone is false. If that was the case the insurgancy in Iraq would of ended a lot sooner.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Why are you not quoting the Heller vs. DC decision?

That reaffirmed the individual right to bear arms over the militia clause.