Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Completed 80% ar15s & air travel

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Staticsouls
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 974

    Completed 80% ar15s & air travel

    So I got tickets to seattle where some friends of mine just bought a house. The husband wants me to bring my ar15s so we can have a day in the woods shooting his ak and my ars. I have a serialized jd machine lower, and a the rest are 80% lowers that I made. I want to take my 7.62x39 pistol upper, and 5.56 pistol upper with their pistol lower I made back during sse, and my 5.56 carbine that is on an 80% arms billet lower.

    Has anyone had any experiences flying with completed 80% firearms?
  • #2
    Bullets&Whitewalls
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 2376

    There was another thread awhile back on this I remember most people saying they wouldn't take the chance without serial numbers on them. I would agree with them. I can't remember if anyone had actually done it though. Is driving not an option?

    Comment

    • #3
      biglou
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1317

      If it's legal to do (build an 80% AR) then what would be the issue ?

      Comment

      • #4
        Intimid8tor
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2007
        • 6607

        They don't look at serial numbers. Most often they don't even open the case.
        Starve the beast, move to a free state.

        Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

        Comment

        • #5
          wireless
          Veteran Member
          • May 2010
          • 4346

          Originally posted by Intimid8tor
          They don't look at serial numbers. Most often they don't even open the case.
          By law they are not allowed to. Only the individual with the firearm can have the key/combo to the locked container. During check in they "inspect" the firearm. AKA the lady at the ticket counter has a mini heart attack while you show her the evil machine. Ammo must be in the original container. It can't be a loose ammo box- ammo that is separated into individual slots is what they are looking for.

          I've flown with firearms, several of which were 80% lowers. Its not that big of a deal. Read all the safety rules, follow them, and you won't be bothered. I wouldn't fly all over the country 70 times a year with a machined 80% lower, but if it's for one trip north, you're probably fine. I've done it 6 times (3 trips) now.

          Comment

          • #6
            Intimid8tor
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2007
            • 6607

            Originally posted by wireless
            By law they are not allowed to. Only the individual with the firearm can have the key/combo to the locked container. During check in they "inspect" the firearm. AKA the lady at the ticket counter has a mini heart attack while you show her the evil machine. Ammo must be in the original container. It can't be a loose ammo box- ammo that is separated into individual slots is what they are looking for.

            I've flown with firearms, several of which were 80% lowers. Its not that big of a deal. Read all the safety rules, follow them, and you won't be bothered. I wouldn't fly all over the country 70 times a year with a machined 80% lower, but if it's for one trip north, you're probably fine. I've done it 6 times (3 trips) now.
            The law doesn't say they can't inspect it only that they can't take the key. When I first started flying with firearms they would have me open the hardcase. Now, they just tape the declaration to the top and send me top TSA.

            Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
            Starve the beast, move to a free state.

            Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

            Comment

            • #7
              wireless
              Veteran Member
              • May 2010
              • 4346

              Right...pretty much what I said...maybe I wasn't clear. Individual can only have key/combo. They do an "inspection" which is basically nothing. People fly with guns all the time. Just follow the rules, know them by heart, and no one will bother you. Most airlines have rules about how many guns you can bring, how much ammo, and rules regarding suppressors (must be in case with guns).

              Comment

              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                The "inspection" is just them (TSA) checking to see if it is unloaded.
                sigpic

                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

                Comment

                • #9
                  Intimid8tor
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6607

                  Originally posted by wireless
                  Right...pretty much what I said...maybe I wasn't clear. Individual can only have key/combo. They do an "inspection" which is basically nothing. People fly with guns all the time. Just follow the rules, know them by heart, and no one will bother you. Most airlines have rules about how many guns you can bring, how much ammo, and rules regarding suppressors (must be in case with guns).
                  Except you said, "by law they are not allowed to". Someone not experienced may read that and think the TSA can't inspect the firearms. Then they don't do their own research and fight the wrong fight with the TSA while trying to maintain their rights.

                  Wasn't trying to nitpick, only ensure clarity for those that don't know the rules. Hell, even most of the TSA and airline employees don't know the rules.

                  Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
                  Starve the beast, move to a free state.

                  Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    cdtx2001
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 6630

                    Originally posted by Staticsouls
                    So I got tickets to seattle where some friends of mine just bought a house. The husband wants me to bring my ar15s so we can have a day in the woods shooting his ak and my ars. I have a serialized jd machine lower, and a the rest are 80% lowers that I made. I want to take my 7.62x39 pistol upper, and 5.56 pistol upper with their pistol lower I made back during sse, and my 5.56 carbine that is on an 80% arms billet lower.

                    Has anyone had any experiences flying with completed 80% firearms?
                    Don't worry about it. Follow the airline's policy about flying with with firearms and ammunition. They do not check a firearm's history or serial number, they only check it to make sure it is unloaded.
                    Custom made Tail Gunner Trailer Hitch for sale.
                    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...php?p=17820185

                    "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side kid" -Han Solo

                    "A dull knife is as useless as the man who would dare carry it"

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Staticsouls
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 974

                      Cool, thanks for your experience. I will have to see how many I can cram in the case, but will have both serialized and the two 80s. I just wanted the peace of mind to know that I wasn't the first one to try to fly with an 80.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        CoopsDad
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1710

                        I've flown with guns a dozen times in the last two years and never had to do more than crack the case open far enough for the TSA guy to slip the "unloaded firearm" tag inside. Then lock it up good n tight and pick it up when it comes out of the conveyor. One tip- no one likes that guy who hovers at the place where the baggage dumps o to the conveyor. Be that guy. It's your gun in a very obvious gun case.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          ECG_88
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 718

                          I flew from San Diego to san jose with my 80% 1911. I had no problems. They didn't even open the case. They just taped a note outside of the case and then had me put it inside my luggage.
                          Emotional appeal is a marketing tactic and not a foundation for effective argument.

                          Nulla Fatere, Omnia Nega, Accusatorem Accusa

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            edgerly779
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 19871

                            No tag is put on outside of case with firearm visible to outside. Usually inside case inside suitcase.. Longuns inside case.You sign that is is unloaded and it goes inside. Lots of people including me have flown with 80% ers.

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              punkur67
                              Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 312

                              Any update to this with recent law changes. I have a hog hunt in Texas and I want to bring my ar10.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1