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  • nice shot
    Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 117

    To carry or Not to carry

    I'm I the only one that has that unsafe feeling. After what happened last week in San Bernadino. The government wants to have more gun control. I live in LA cant get a CCW. I can't legally carry a firearm, our hands our tied. So my question to all...do I risk carrying without having a CCW to make myself feel at piece, so I can defend myself, family, if needed.
  • #2
    Mayor McRifle
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 7747

    Originally posted by nice shot
    So my question to all...do I risk carrying without having a CCW to make myself feel at piece, so I can defend myself, family, if needed.
    That's a personal decision that you're going to have to make for yourself.
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    • #3
      Chapped Hide
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 3901

      Only you can weigh the risk/reward.
      **** your feelings!

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      • #4
        M&PMarine
        Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 356

        Move to a different County where you CAN get a CCW and commute!! I know that may be more difficult but it would solve the issue that you are having.

        OK yeah I was the one who said what everyone else was thinking!!

        Seen on a LGS Wall.
        Without the Second, there would be No First!!

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        • #5
          BoJackUSMC
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 7091

          If you gonna do it. ...don't say it in this thread. ...
          Up to you sir...just know what can happen when you do get caught

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          • #6
            glockman19
            Banned
            • Jun 2007
            • 10486

            You can always get an Allen zipper locking case and carry unloaded.

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            • #7
              Scratch705
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 12537

              Originally posted by glockman19
              You can always get an Allen zipper locking case and carry unloaded.
              yep, there is always the option of LUCC.

              locked container with a loaded magazine outside of the gun, on your person is totally legal.

              that is how i do it everyday as i too also live in LA county and i work for a jewelry business so i'm at even higher risk.

              i can easily open the lock and load within 30 seconds.

              and i don't have to carry a sub-compact. with this i get to carry my full sized pistol with 3 magazines but still have the container no bigger than your typical clipboard that slips into my backpack or messenger bag that i carry with me as much as i can.
              Originally posted by leelaw
              Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
              Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
              Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
              Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
              Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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              • #8
                cannon
                In Memoriam
                • Aug 2008
                • 8589

                No one likes a long commute but there are surrounding counties that issue.

                For myself, violating the law on CC is not worth the penalties and long term repercussions.
                Last edited by cannon; 12-07-2015, 8:16 AM.
                ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                • #9
                  Ronanld
                  Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 118

                  I wouldn't carry without a permit. Counties that don't allow carry will come down on you big time if caught. Then you will likely never get a permit in any other county with that on your record. I finally retired after living in a liberal county and moving to a shall issue one. Now, I don't leave home without carrying one of the three on my permit.

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                  • #10
                    wl518
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 372

                    Protect yourself. Your call. Just remember that any tool is useless if you don't have the mindset to follow through and act. This goes beyond carrying or not.

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                    • #11
                      Librarian
                      Admin and Poltergeist
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 44680

                      LUCC no longer works.

                      It was OK when it was still legal to open carry unloaded - concealing the handgun in the case and going where UOC was legal just wasn't very different.

                      But the law changed; UOC is illegal in incorporated areas. If you are transporting out of your vehicle, you need to adhere to 'destination requirements'. See the Penal Code, starting at 25505. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...r=2.&article=3.

                      A current thread points out the penalties for carrying without CCW.
                      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                      • #12
                        Sleighter
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3624

                        Unless you're involved in activities and crimes that put you at risk, I would say that statistically you are unlikely to need a ccw. You are much more likely to get in trouble for carrying without a permit.

                        All that said, whether or not we commit a crime is a choice that each of us makes every day when we wake up. Just realize that you'll no longer be in the category of a "law abiding gun owner" if you carry without a license.
                        If you are wondering if you can get a LTC in Riverside County: THE ANSWER IS YES!

                        Join the discussion at:http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=352777

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                        • #13
                          Scratch705
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2009
                          • 12537

                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          LUCC no longer works.

                          It was OK when it was still legal to open carry unloaded - concealing the handgun in the case and going where UOC was legal just wasn't very different.

                          But the law changed; UOC is illegal in incorporated areas. If you are transporting out of your vehicle, you need to adhere to 'destination requirements'. See the Penal Code, starting at 25505. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...r=2.&article=3.

                          A current thread points out the penalties for carrying without CCW.
                          what constitute a gun club? cause i shoot regularly with a co-worker, and we have talked before about just making a club between ourselves and any other co-workers. and we do meet every lunch to talk about guns, weekend range plans, etc.

                          thus would this apply to us:

                          Section 25400 does not apply to, or affect, the possession of a firearm in a locked container by a member of any club or organization, organized for the purpose of lawfully collecting and lawfully displaying pistols, revolvers, or other firearms, while the member is at a meeting of the club or organization or while going directly to, and coming directly from, a meeting of the club or organization.
                          (Added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. Effective January 1, 2011. Operative January 1, 2012, by Sec. 10 of Ch. 711.)
                          Originally posted by leelaw
                          Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                          Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                          Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                          Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                          Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                          • #14
                            Jimi Jah
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 19088

                            What if you have no "vehicle"? What if you walk? Walking with an unloaded gun in a locked case?

                            This law discriminates against walkers and those that cannot afford a personnal vehicle. What about taking the bus?

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                            • #15
                              Doheny
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13820

                              To carry or Not to carry

                              Lots of threads on this lately. One thing to think about is the legal considerations. Those are addressed in this thread, from a few days ago:

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