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  • elx144
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2009
    • 1403

    351 Mass Shootings

    I keep hearing that there's been 351 mass shootings in 2015. The term is defined by Motherjones as "4 or more shootings without a cooling off". It's not a useful statistic for gun debates, since it doesn't say weather or not someone with a gun stopped the bad guy. The number also manipulates words. Normally a mass shooting ends in death, this 351 number is talking about any shooting regardless of if someone died. It's really bugging me since using this term, like using the term assault weapon, is manipulative. Someone doesn't want us to have guns, so they're using the ignorance of the general public to their advantage.


    What defines a mass shooting, how often they occur, and how to distinguish them from spree and serial killings.
  • #2
    calwoodbutcher
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 260

    This includes when a Crip shoots 4 or more as well. Pure BS.
    An Armed Society is a Polite Society!

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    • #3
      morfeeis
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 7605

      they keep saying that mass shooting are on the rise by using that state without stating that there is no other value such as this over the years to compare it to. if we had number from the 1980's when murder rates were at an all time high i would think the mass shooting numbers would dwarf these new numbers.

      it's like measuring the number of guns sold on black friday in 2015 vs the number sold on black friday in 1982 and saying see look how many more guns were sold without having any data from 1982.
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      • #4
        Carcassonne
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 4897

        A mass shooting is for or more shots? If some drunk yahoo fires is six-shooter in the air on new years eve or the 4th of July, it is considered a mass shooting?


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        • #5
          Cannon-Arms
          In Memoriam
          • Apr 2012
          • 1389

          Liberal have changed the definition they use (go figure, libtards changing definitions) To enhance the shock value.

          FBI stats I believe define a mass shooting as four or more shot and killed.

          Liberal media and their sycophants have changed it to three or more shot.

          Sheep lap it up.

          We need to push bacvk using FBI stats at a min.

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          • #6
            Bainter1212
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2013
            • 5936

            Yeah the Bloomberg shell groups have been feeding this stuff to the MSM and pawning it off like it is legit, non-biased research, when in fact it is nothing more than an attempt to control the narrative.
            I HAVE seen it everywhere today though, looks like they are upping their game lately.

            Fortunately for us, massive gun sales today tell us what the true opinion of the public really is.

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            • #7
              Nick Justice
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 1985

              As I said earlier.... They will start counting the number of shots fired, regardless of number of injured or killed.
              It doesn't matter how scary, ugly, uncomfortable, or inconvenient self defense can be. Like it or not, you will never, ever be relieved of your duty and responsibility to defend your life, your family, your country and your freedom.

              How much ammo do I need? Enough to last me the rest of my life, and then lot more for later.

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              • #8
                AceGirlsHusband
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2651

                Do they actually have a definition for "mass shooting?" Is that anything more than 1 person injured in any single event?

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                • #9
                  Legasat
                  Intergalactic Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4151

                  Motherjones...nuff said
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                  • #10
                    uechikid
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1409

                    These statistics also take gang shootings into account which make up a large part of those numbers.
                    "Carpe Diem"

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                    • #11
                      Spanky8601
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2275

                      They will include the final shoot out where the 2 terrorists ended up dead and there were two officers injuries. (One with a leg wound and the other with undetermined injuries.
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                      • #12
                        Dee_Dub
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2097

                        flawed info, which includes: self defense, suicides, gang violence ect.... nice try bloomberg ya****
                        A man's GOT to know his limitations.

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                        • #13
                          OCGun
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 40

                          I read they are also including shooter in the numbers now also, anything to drive up the numbers and spread fear.

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                          • #14
                            elx144
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1403

                            Hopefully most voters can see that it doesn't match up with that they see on the local news. Since it's so ridiculous I'm hoping this backfires on them.

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                            • #15
                              1CavScout
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 3234

                              Originally posted by elx144
                              Hopefully most voters can see that it doesn't match up with that they see on the local news. Since it's so ridiculous I'm hoping this backfires on them.
                              No, most people are stupid. I had a fight over this on FB last night. I pointed out how ridiculous those numbers are, and also provided a link to a story of how they define a mass shooting. The sheep did not want to hear it.
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