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  • #31
    Metal God
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 1839

    Oh yeah and common sense gun control is going to stop these people from attacking ??? Yea because people easily leave there 6 month old child behind to go commit murder but OH WAIT WE CAN"T KILL FOR ARE CAUSE NOW because there is no "gun show loophole" The way the left thinks is truly mind numbing .
    Last edited by Metal God; 12-04-2015, 12:35 PM.
    Tolerate
    allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

    Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

    I write almost everything in a jovial manner regardless of content . If that's not how you took it please try again

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    • #32
      ChuckDizzle
      Banned
      • Dec 2013
      • 4398

      Are the two mutually exclusive? It seems like there was a lot of overlap in this case. The attack seems to have political motivations (per the FBI definition of terrorism) and seems to have been directed at his coworkers. One story even pointed out heated political discussions one of the shooters had in the office.

      If you are a radicalized person looking to attack for political purposes, but you also don't like some of your coworkers wouldn't you just kill two birds with one stone?

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      • #33
        Soginator
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 1696

        It seems that they had some sort of terrorist plan, but something happened at his work, so he switched the target to his work. I also don't see why everyone is so quick to point the finger at anyone who isn't white (because be honest, that is what you mean when you say "immigrant"). Look at the last 15 major shootings. How many of them were committed by "immigrants?" Now how many of them were committed by white males? Yes, we should be aware that ISIS/ISIL/whatever the hell we're calling them these days are out to get us. But the fact remains you are still extremely unlikely to get caught up in any sort of gun related violence, and if you are, odds are it is going to be caused by a white dude.
        WTS HK USP45c http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1304283

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        • #34
          Metal God
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 1839

          If you are a radicalized person looking to attack for political purposes, but you also don't like some of your coworkers wouldn't you just kill two birds with one stone?
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          Sounds reasonable but IMHO they are tarriest first and lucked out they can attack co-workers . They shot up a party not the office . Likely much more people in one room then at any time at work .

          Also . If you guys are really following this ( ISIL ) you will see and or should know they don't lie or make **** up . Every time they say they are going to do something they have done it . I'm not going to go through the list but it is kinda scary . They recently said they are sending fighters as refugees in to other country's . Who here feels there is no need to believe what they say . Would you go swimming in a pool with 1,000 sharks if only 1 was man eating killer . Why take the risk ? Maybe you stop and do some fishing but you don't jump in .
          Last edited by Metal God; 12-04-2015, 1:30 PM.
          Tolerate
          allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

          Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

          I write almost everything in a jovial manner regardless of content . If that's not how you took it please try again

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          • #35
            Soginator
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 1696

            Originally posted by Metal God
            Would you go swimming in a pool with 1,000 sharks if only 1 was man eating killers .
            It's more like would you go swimming with dolphins if there was a possible shark sighting.
            WTS HK USP45c http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1304283

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            • #36
              Metal God
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 1839

              It's more like would you go swimming with dolphins if there was a possible shark sighting.
              I don't believe it's "possible" that they are sending fighters disguised as refugees . I believe they "are" sending them . As this incident shows it only takes one to push the rest to radicalize . These guys aren't just sending the foot solier . I'd bet dollars to donuts they are sending trainers and bomb builders . That way they only need a few to radicalize many and then have the ability to train and equip them .
              Tolerate
              allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

              Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

              I write almost everything in a jovial manner regardless of content . If that's not how you took it please try again

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              • #37
                creampuff
                • Jan 2006
                • 3730

                I say he will either say "this is an isolated incidence of gun violence with two people who happen to have, slight ties to the Islam faith. "

                Or he will double down and remind us of the roles the "Christians" had in the crusades.

                Obummer how many centuries was that ago? Let it go. Or blame Adam and Eve, where sin first entered the world.

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                • #38
                  Untamed1972
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 17579

                  I think we have our answer now. The FBI has officially labeled it terrorism.
                  "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                  Quote for the day:
                  "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                  • #39
                    barrage
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3351

                    Originally posted by Untamed1972
                    I think we have our answer now. The FBI has officially labeled it terrorism.
                    All that does is prove the FBI are bigots. We should wait for Dear Leader to tell us what it was.

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                    • #40
                      Untamed1972
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 17579

                      Originally posted by barrage
                      All that does is prove the FBI are bigots. We should wait for Dear Leader to tell us what it was.
                      He will likely just dance around it now and avoid talking about it as much as possible. Because at this point everything about points to failures of Gov't at all levels. At most they're continue to try and play it as a reason for more gun control, the stupid no-fly list prohibition, etc. And he will blame republicans and the NRA for blocking gun control measures that wouldn't have prevented anything anyway.
                      "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                      Quote for the day:
                      "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                      • #41
                        ChuckDizzle
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 4398

                        Originally posted by Metal God
                        I don't believe it's "possible" that they are sending fighters disguised as refugees . I believe they "are" sending them . As this incident shows it only takes one to push the rest to radicalize . These guys aren't just sending the foot solier . I'd bet dollars to donuts they are sending trainers and bomb builders . That way they only need a few to radicalize many and then have the ability to train and equip them .
                        I'm willing to bet the wife was actually the one in this role. Think about it, this guy was so hard up to get some action from a woman who would make his parents happy (hijab wearing, mosque goer) he essentially hooked up with a mail order bride from a terrorist hot spot.

                        One common thread I've noticed about almost all mass shootings is that it seems incredibly unlikely that any of them were getting any action at all (even from other males in the case of Vester Lee Flannegan).

                        It isn't a stretch to think ISIS may be online targeting guys like Farook who are simply having trouble finding a date and may be desperate enough to be manipulated.

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                        • #42
                          barrage
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3351

                          Originally posted by Untamed1972
                          He will likely just dance around it now and avoid talking about it as much as possible. Because at this point everything about points to failures of Gov't at all levels. At most they're continue to try and play it as a reason for more gun control, the stupid no-fly list prohibition, etc. And he will blame republicans and the NRA for blocking gun control measures that wouldn't have prevented anything anyway.
                          Unfortunately, all of what you describe can already be seen happening. MSNBC even had the gall to try and change the conversation by posting an article about "5 other couples who killed".

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                          • #43
                            Soginator
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1696

                            I think people are being really silly about this, not realizing there is a damn good reason he isn't. Check out hate crimes in the aftermath of an event like this. They sky rocket. Creating prejudice towards a group of people will only create more victims of hate.
                            WTS HK USP45c http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1304283

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                            • #44
                              barrage
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 3351

                              Originally posted by Soginator
                              I think people are being really silly about this, not realizing there is a damn good reason he isn't. Check out hate crimes in the aftermath of an event like this. They sky rocket. Creating prejudice towards a group of people will only create more victims of hate.
                              You clowns had your chance with your hippie bull**** and that's gotten us where we are today. Sit down, shut up, and let things get handled now.

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                              • #45
                                Sabot
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 545

                                I keep hearing Obama call this "gun violence".

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