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  • mefrank
    Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 136

    Need Advice on Beretta Tomcat

    My wife owns a Beretta 3032 Tomcat stainless which she loves. The problem is she can't rack the slide. It is very hard for me and I am pretty strong. I keep it clean and lubricated. Does anyone have this particular problem? I was thinking maybe the wrong spring was installed at the factory. Any advice to fix this problem would be appreciated
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44664

    It's a tip-up.

    You mostly don't need to rack the slide.

    The 3032 features a tip-up barrel design typical of the classic Beretta small-frame pistols. Thanks to this design, you never need to rack the slide and you can load that first round directly into the chamber.
    http://www.beretta.com/en-us/3032-tomcat/
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      mefrank
      Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 136

      Yes I really like the tip up barrel and you are right you hardly ever need to rack the slide. To get a conceal weapon permit you need to be able to and it would be nice to just be able to rack the slide. The blowback design of the gun is not it. I have a Bersa 380 with the blowback design and it racks smooth as silk no effort at all. There has to be some defect

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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44664

        Try some lubricant on the slide rails and work it for a while; mine loosened up some.

        And, your CCW issuing agency ought to know better than to require racking the slide on such a gun - but that would require they actually knew something about guns, not always the case.
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        • #5
          c4jesus
          Banned
          • Sep 2015
          • 53

          Note to the issuing agency that the design of the Tomcat is specifically intended to prevent any need to ever do so. It even says so in their literature. http://www.beretta.com/en-us/3032-tomcat/ Tip Up Barrel paragraph.

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          • #6
            JDay
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 19393

            Originally posted by Librarian
            Try some lubricant on the slide rails and work it for a while; mine loosened up some.

            And, your CCW issuing agency ought to know better than to require racking the slide on such a gun - but that would require they actually knew something about guns, not always the case.
            More likely it's the class instructor.
            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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            • #7
              mefrank
              Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 136

              That is true about not racking the Tomcat. This instructor is a great instructor he just wants you to know and be familiar and at ease with the weapon. I will try the lubricant and multiple racking

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              • #8
                Can'thavenuthingood
                C3 Leader
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 5246

                Wife has one also.
                If you cock the hammer then rack, its much easier.

                Vick
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                • #9
                  BrokerB
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5377

                  It was made as a tip up for the women folk.

                  Why in the hell would an instructor demand that? Is a person with a disability not allowed to protect themselves?
                  Beans and Bullets

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                  • #10
                    Jimi Jah
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 18975

                    What do they do with disabled CCW applicants? Automatically reject them if they can't pull a slide on a pop up barrel?

                    My wife has the Tomcat just because of that feature. She was going to buy a nice Seecamp used, but that stiff bugger she could not pull.

                    In the required 'safe handeling' demonstration they only required her to pop the barrel and load a snap cap. Why would that be any different for a CCW application?

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                    • #11
                      Wordupmybrotha
                      From anotha motha
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 6965

                      Originally posted by Can'thavenuthingood
                      Wife has one also.
                      If you cock the hammer then rack, its much easier.

                      Vick
                      ^this

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                      • #12
                        Can'thavenuthingood
                        C3 Leader
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 5246

                        Is there a statewide standard for qualifying for CCW shooting or is it a county determination?

                        Just asked the wife and she said all she had to do was load it and shoot.
                        No requirement to rack the slide in Kings county.

                        The Tomcat being a tip up she loaded a cartridge, snapped the barrel closed, inserted mag, cocked the hammer and fired.
                        Instructor watched all this and didn't say anything about rack slide first.

                        Vick
                        sigpic

                        "Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more." (George Patton)

                        Picnic Time

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                        • #13
                          Rosereader
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 805

                          Technique also helps. If she is having difficulty make sure she uses both arms to their full potential but pushing forward on the frame with her dominant hand whilst racking it with her off hand. Also, using your whole hand to grip the slide rather than just a couple of fingers makes a big difference. I can't say whether she is or not though, as I simply lack the information.

                          As others have said though, cocking the hammer first makes a big difference (one less spring you have to fight). You can try wearing the spring out to make it easier, but that's a pain.

                          Still odd that she isn't permitted to use the Tomcats selling point.
                          So I was driving home from the range and I noticed that the scent of warm steel, burnt gunpowder and lukewarm coffee combined and smelled oddly of... Peanut butter?! Man, the Hoppe's is going to my head.


                          Originally posted by RR.44
                          Rose, you're sick dude
                          Originally posted by Jimmybacon43
                          I like to call us the "Nighttime association of Law abiding and moral fellows"
                          Or NALAMF for short.
                          Originally posted by FremontJames
                          What do you consider long range?
                          Take half of a binocular, tape it to your rifle.

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                          • #14
                            mefrank
                            Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 136

                            I want to say Thank You to all the kind people that responded with tips. i pulled the hammer back, handed it to my wife and said see if you can rack it. She did with no problem. What an easy fix, you would never know by my question I have owned guns for 60 years

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