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  • VeryCoolCat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2006
    • 11275

    Mac Series "Handguns?"

    Since you cant ban a weapon by "series"

    Masterpiece Arms has a MAC 9mm Defender SA Pistols. If they sent one of these to a DOJ testing facility and it were approved. Would that mean theres a CA-LEGAL Mac-10 lookalike?

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  • #2
    Stanze
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3301

    Originally posted by VeryCoolCat
    Since you cant ban a weapon by "series"

    Masterpiece Arms has a MAC 9mm Defender SA Pistols. If they sent one of these to a DOJ testing facility and it were approved. Would that mean theres a CA-LEGAL Mac-10 lookalike?

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=52490287
    Yup, that's how it works. The question is do they have the resources and demand to justify going through the hassle.

    The gun would also have to be SB-23 compliant, remove the threaded barrel.
    Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

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    • #3
      grammaton76
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      • Dec 2005
      • 9511

      I don't see a loaded chamber indicator, but they could probably put a magazine disconnect safety on it, and if it passes the test before 2007... well, they'd just have to REALLY make sure it never falls off the list afterwards.

      I'd probably buy one for looks alone, although I would REALLY rather have a Skorpion.
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      • #4
        Mudvayne540ld
        Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 339

        I really want a KG-99
        To bad no more open bolt huh
        Or at least a Tec-9

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        • #5
          JPglee1
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 3025

          Originally posted by Mudvayne540ld
          Or at least a Tec-9
          My mom has the only consecutive SN registered Tec-9s in the entire state, according to the DOJ.

          The best part is they are NIB, never been handled outside of the factory. I think she has a bunch of 50rd mags for them too, and the shrouds and all the jazzy accessories that came with them.

          Before the Fed AWB sunset in 04 she was offered $5000 for the pair and turned it down (to an FFL in a freestate) now with the Fed AWB gone they are worth maybe $1500 tops hahaha... I tried to tell her to sell them for $5000 and get 2 M1As and an ART-II scope and lots of ammo... didn't happen.


          As far as "MAC" pistols, PM-11s are legal still and being sold PPT all the time, expect to pay about $800 minimum for a POS $289 gun haha. In the "free" states a brand new Mac-11 goes for $300 or so. MAC's are pretty worthless if they aren't an SMG, all they are is a heavy, crude 9mm that won't do anything a Glock with a 32rd mag won't do (and prolly do it better)


          Supply and demand causes those rediculous markups, just like KEL-TEC P32s going for $600+ now...



          J

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          • #6
            bu-bye
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2835

            Originally posted by JPglee1
            MAC's are pretty worthless if they aren't an SMG, all they are is a heavy, crude 9mm that won't do anything a Glock with a 32rd mag won't do (and prolly do it better)
            I agree, why would you want one? The gun was made to be a full auto weapon for easy carry. Its a spray and pray gun that really only looks good in the movies. Even a glock can be made select fire with a bolt-on part and is much smaller, lighter, cheaper and even has a drum mag for it.
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            • #7
              Librarian
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              • Oct 2005
              • 44646

              Originally posted by bu-bye
              ... glock ... even has a drum mag for it.
              B'gosh, so there is! Thanks; I hadn't seen those yet. Can't buy them here, of course, like lots of things.
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              • #8
                grammaton76
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                • Dec 2005
                • 9511

                Personally, I'm mostly interested in the drum mags for my Para. If I made frequent out of state trips, I'd think about buying some and leaving them with a friend...
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                • #9
                  Turbinator
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 11934

                  Originally posted by JPglee1
                  Before the Fed AWB sunset in 04 she was offered $5000 for the pair and turned it down (to an FFL in a freestate) now with the Fed AWB gone they are worth maybe $1500 tops hahaha... I tried to tell her to sell them for $5000 and get 2 M1As and an ART-II scope and lots of ammo... didn't happen.
                  They must have been paying for the consecutive numbers then, because during the ban, Intratec DC9's were not too expensive - varying from $299 through Shotgun News, to $700 online. No accessories, but those didn't cost all that much to equal $2500 each setup.

                  Turby

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                  • #10
                    JPglee1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3025

                    Originally posted by Turbinator
                    They must have been paying for the consecutive numbers then, because during the ban, Intratec DC9's were not too expensive - varying from $299 through Shotgun News, to $700 online. No accessories, but those didn't cost all that much to equal $2500 each setup.

                    Turby

                    The guys name was Brian Blakely, he's a C2...he wanted them bad for some reason??? FWIW these are marked TEC-9 not DC9, they are one of the first closed bolt versions...


                    They look like this...


                    I don't think they are worth $100, but thats me haha


                    J
                    Last edited by JPglee1; 07-17-2006, 8:14 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Turbinator
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 11934

                      Thanks for a pic, the Tec 9 and the DC9 are very similar, the only difference being (as far as I know) the sling attachments. The Tec 9 has a sling attachment in the front and the back attached to the upper tube, whereas the DC9 only has a sling attachment in the way back, as a metal clip.

                      Turby

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                      • #12
                        Mudvayne540ld
                        Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 339

                        then the KG-99 is open bolt
                        When I finish my JC, I am moving out to AZ to attend Embry Riddle. I will return to CA, but in my 2 or so years there... I want to try and obtain a KG, or DC

                        that is awsome that your mom owns those Intratec's tho
                        Last edited by Mudvayne540ld; 07-17-2006, 2:50 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Turbinator
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 11934

                          Originally posted by Mudvayne540ld
                          then the KG-99 is open bolt
                          When I finish my JC, I am moving out to AZ to attend Embry Riddle. I will return to CA, but in my 2 or so years there... I want to try and obtain a KG, or DC

                          that is awsome that your mom owns those Intratec's tho
                          If you're not bent on getting something full auto, you can try a Kimmel AP9 - similarly styled pistol as well.

                          Turby

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                          • #14
                            MidnightSon117
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 551

                            Originally posted by JPglee1
                            The guys name was Brian Blakely, he's a C2...he wanted them bad for some reason??? FWIW these are marked TEC-9 not DC9, they are one of the first closed bolt versions...


                            They look like this...


                            I don't think they are worth $100, but thats me haha


                            J
                            Reminds me of the waterguns I used to play with, called the Waterhawk, by entertech. Kinda sad, since there's only a few who got to play with such a cool water gun...and anyone who wasn't a kid in the 80's probably wouldn't remember it. I had an uzi too, with a collapsible stock and detachable mag for quick reloading by the pool!

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                            • #15
                              50 Freak
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3412

                              A glock with a 33 rounder fills the same role as these "MACs".

                              Plus the MACs are a POS. They are extremely heavy and jam a lot and you get better accuracy by just throwing the gun rather than shooting it.
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